No! Since that depends on what notes you’re moving between and how tidily you finger them, it would be more logical to say that cross-fingered transitions require accurate timing…
I guessed before I read the thread and also had 3 as a recorder, but the differences were not very marked.
I think the recorder might be more tuneful - or have fuller more founded notes, if that makes sense.
Thanks that was fun
Recorder is chiff-less while whistle is chiffy.
However is it suffice to say that the breath blow also affects the chiff factor?
… the following is an excerpt from a page on the Dolmetsch (Recorder Manufacturer) website that you might find interesting :
Occasionally, you may want to generate more ‘chiff’ into your low notes, particularly where a percussive effect is required. Then you can increase the force of your tonguing although this does not mean that you need to blow harder which will only tend to sharpen the pitch or weaken the sound.
Thanks Kypfer. That is interesting.
It is kinda tiring when I stress the T when tonguing when I tried this experiment.
I figure out that one by using a different tonguing technique where you add an articulation of “F” sound, you can make a recorder a little chiffy, and make a whistle more chiffy.
i belive all this mysterious “chiff” (some think its this, some think its that, some dont understand what is meant)
is just the played note but in the next octave for a little moment
some whistles are very sensible for that, when blown or tounged hard, others are less sensible for “more wind”
see mtgurus answere on this thread about my “squeaky waltons”
he didnt say what i said above but thats how i understand the chiff since that
if a recorder has this? i dont know, can you overblow a recorder?
if a recorder has this? i dont know, can you overblow a recorder?
… a recorder can certainly have “chiff”, but the “normal” recorder playing style, combined with the relatively large bore of a recorder, tends to reduce the effect to a minimum.
Yes, you can overblow a recorder, but the resultant note may not be in tune unless the thumb-hole is used to “vent” the instrument … much like lifting off the top finger to play a high D on a whistle. The fingering on a recorder is slightly more complicated than a whistle because a recorder is designed to be fully chromatic over two octaves (with cross-fingering), whereas a whistle is primarily diatonic. Nevertheless, it’s not too difficult to adapt to a recorder if you can play a whistle, there can be some advantages for some tunes, having that extra note under the right-hand little finger for example, and a reasonable quality instrument can be bought very cheaply second-hand ![]()
I haven’t got a Scooby Doo what ‘chiff’ is and since I’ve never heard it mentioned outside this forum I’ll probably never find out.
Bothered? Nah.
that makes me hope
because a while ago, i thought about, getting a recorder but than thought, it would be to difficdult, to learn that other way additional, as being a beginner on the whistle
anyway, i did hear about 2 different kind of recorders? with different holes?
I guess you mean German fingering vs. baroque fingering?
Get one with baroque fingering system.
when its time for a recorder i will get one like that, thank you