Death in Scandinavia

I just discovered that these

(Norwegian Lundehund)



are used in Norway to kill these

and I’m devastated.

Me too.
Cute dogs. Surely they can learn a useful trick

In Iceland you can shoot or net any Alcid you want and almost as many as you want(100s).

Aww! So cute and fluffy! Is that a Norwegian Forest Cat? :wink:

There isn’t an awful lot about hunting (anywhere) that holds any appeal for me. On the other hand, who am I to criticize others who do.

I can’t help thinking about all the really cute furry things I have caused to be killed and consumed… and still do.

But you never know. If it weren’t for the effort of those valiant Norwegian Lundehundes, Norway might be up to its frigid Norwegian ass in puffins.

Norwegians are a strange breed indeed, not to be confused with the rest of Scandinavia. Their biggest problem isn’t strange hunting methods though, it’s the worst case of the “baby brother complex”.

And they can’t even distill decent
whisky :wink:

I like Norwegia (sounds better than Norway, doesn’t it?) and I support their right to hunt their own puffins.

The Swedes subjected the whole world to :swear: Ikea :swear: , that certainly makes up for any short-comings possibly imagined for the Norwegians. :laughing:

BTW Atlantic Puffin populations have been declining and some countries are discussing hunting moratoriums both on hunting and egg collecting which also impacts population numbers.

… not to mention ABBA. :smiley:

And those tiny meatballs.

My Lord, The Norveegians eat puffin and whale. What are they? Friggin’ nuts? What are they shooting for? The extinction of these marvelous critters? Sorry to vent but I love animals especially birds. Mmmmm that’s better. I have vented.

Tin

P.S. The dog looks like a Norveegian chihuahua. I love Norwegian Elkhounds.

Me too. It’s no more my business what they hunt than it is their business what our people hunt.

Well, I would hope that a drive to prevent endangerment of a species such as puffins would come from a environmental and/or conservation organization as opposed to a foreign government.
There’s great value in preservation of species. Puffins are cool. It doesn’t have to be political.

And apparently, also edible and quite tasty.

But I must admit I could not make this recipe myself. The boiled vegetables are a turn-off, especially the brussels sprouts.

You know the most expendable form of life on this planet (if any life is indeed expendable)? It’s humans. The earth, as a whole, would be better off if we weren’t here. The whole “man is the measure of all things” argument is really quite tiresome. The most profound thing said in the Matrix trilogy was when Agent Smith described man as a virus that consumes every natural resource until it’s gone and then moves to another area to do the same. Virtually every animal develops a natural equilibrium with the environment - save man. There are things that no man has the right to do; ending the existence of another species should not be a choice that we should be able to make. There was that commercial on television many years back that posed the question as to why man alone had the power to destroy the earth. It ended with the point that only man had the power to save it.

That’s just not true, but even if it were true it would be unverifiable.

And these puffins are not an endangered species. They’re listed as a species of least concern.

It’s like when Britain outlawed foxhunting. It wasn’t my place to stop them and say “you’re going to be overrun with these predators.” It was their lesson to learn, and we can’t stop them, nor ought we to.

I made no reference to puffins or Scandinavians.

I know nothing about Norway nor it’s relationship to puffins to suggest that they should or should not hunt them. The bigger issue is whether a group of people have the right to hunt an animal to extinction (such as the case with whales) because to prevent them from doing so would deprive them of some social or cultural legacy. As mentioned by someone else in this thread, this isn’t a political or national issue. It’s an ecological one. If puffins are in great supply, good ahead and hunt them, eat them, and use them to make pretty hats or whatever you suggest they do. I won’t pass judgment on it. But to suggest that any nation, state or culture has the right to deliberately kill off a species under the auspices of cultural identity is both irresponsible and egregious.

That’s where you’re wrong. The bigger issue isn’t how we related to the resources (plants, animals, other resources such as oil) that we control. That’s only a small part of it. The biggest issue here is how we each relate to us. It’s how we step back and respect the choices of those nations and peoples who decide to use their resources differently than we would, without telling them what they “should” do because we have some belief that any one of their resources is somehow pretty or cool.