Completely Thoroughly Non-Whistle Related-- ley lines

With such a wide spanse of knowledge amongst our Chiffy Menagerie, I decided to take a chance… if someone out there has a thing or two to say about ley lines, in specific regards to the British Isles, could you drop me a PM or email? I would like to pick your brain, as it were… :smiley: Looking for some good resources.

Thanks for indulging me,
Andrea ~*~

Check out Teoma - lots there! I’ve sent you a couple of links in email.
Cheers, :smiley:
serp
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ley lines! humpp!!! what a load of …
should I go on?
No…if you look into most so called ley lines in th UK and archelogical/historical records, the majority donot stand up.
how could it be a ley line if there are 1000’s of years between the construction of the items?
saying that there are some very intresting lines in the prehistorical era, particualy in wiltshire, though this may be down to the salisbury plain be run by the MOD for donkeys years so a lot of sites havn’t been destroyed by modern farming.
Richard.

Alright, I’ll be the one:

What’s a “ley line”?

John Mac

On 2003-01-21 11:26, goesto11 wrote:
Alright, I’ll be the one:

What’s a “ley line”?

John Mac

Basically, it’s alignment of different historical sites along a straight line. This is (Depending on your interpretation) old trading routes, lines of mystical power, gravitational fields.

There are about as many theories for ley lines as there are for crop circles.

This is one of the first links to pop up on a google search for it if you want to read further.

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/earthmysteries/EMLeyLines.html

Aodhan

We have an interesting variant of ley lines here in the Bay Area. They’re called Fault Lines. For some reason, several schools, a major emergency hospital and the community college are all built right atop the Hayward Fault. And only the college and hospital happen to be on flat ground.

Lemming Civic Planning Company.

John Mac, here is a brief description:
http://www.mystical-www.co.uk/leylines.htm
and here:
http://members.tripod.com/~midgley/leylines.html

Another pretty decent explanation:
http://www.geo.org/dowse1.htm#2

Andrea ~*~


“…an unsung land is a dead land: since if the songs are forgotten, the land itself will die.”
~The Songlines, Bruce Chatwin

[ This Message was edited by: aderyn on 2003-01-21 11:35 ]

A ley line is a line of (mystical?) energy flowing through the ground. Generally they’re ruler straight, and can run for hundreds of miles. They are argued to link various historical & pre-historic sites, such as Avebury & Stonehenge.

M

Yeh, I think we have em here in the Southwest. In Sedona, a few years back, they had this big Harmonica Convention right atop the ley line.

Much like a open highway to nowhere you see in all the auto television ads, and has been written about it seems unceasingly in American literature.

MarkB

On 2003-01-21 10:42, rbm wrote:
ley lines! humpp!!! what a load of …
should I go on?
No…if you look into most so called ley lines in th UK and archelogical/historical records, the majority donot stand up.
how could it be a ley line if there are 1000’s of years between the construction of the items?
Richard.

Richard, before you poo-poo such things, your argument holds no water. The ley lines in question do connect ancient sites over very large distances - the discrepancy is simply explained by the fact that successive cultures built their edifices on existing, deemed “holy” sites. In particular the Christians who tried to eradicate pagan practices by building churches on top of old megalithic sites.

That’s not to say ley lines are a reality or not, but the modern scientific mind is quick to be sceptical and denounce such things without allowing possibilities.

Interestingly, you can trace where people believed ley lines to be by place names - eg Langley, Priestley, etc. The scientific basis for ley lines is straightforward: the planet has a magnetic field, and the ley lines are reputably the magnetic lines of this field, now weakened by being crossed by motorways, pylon lines, etc. Maybe the ancients were more sensitive and understood some things we’ve forgotten about in this material age.

Bravo, Nick!

Great points raised!

Andrea ~*~

Several thoughts come to mind reading this thread:

–Reasonable skepticism is a healthy thing;

–there is still much about the ancient world we don’t understand (and likely never will);

–there is still much about our own world that we don’t understand, but I think it’s important to try to figure it out

–it was easier to be skeptical of the unseen before that Netwon fella got konked on the head (and yes, I know that story is not true)

–absence of proof is not proof of absence

Best wishes to all,

–James
http://www.flutesite.com

They were left by alien life forms thousands of years ago, and they’re coming back next week, so you’d better run for the hills…

Interesting topic.Modern Ley line research was started by Alfred Watkins,who noticed the strange alignment of ancient standing stones,earthworks,old churches,'sacred sites’in the English countryside(Hertfordshire/Welsh borders to be more precise).He published his findings in the late 1920’s.Many people have continued to map these alignments,often as a hobby-there was a magasine called ‘The Ley Hunter’(P.O. box 92,Penzance,Cornwall,TR18 2 BX),don’t know if it still exists;I got the address from Jenny Randles ‘Paranormal sourcebook’ published in 1996. Nick T.,I thought that your explanation of why these alignments exist was very clear. ‘Experts’ used to ‘pooh-pooh’ the abilities of our ancient ancestors,but the cartoon idea of the caveman hunting mammoths,bopping women on the head with his club and dragging them along by the hair is rather uncomplimentary to our forefathers,who were just as intelligent as ourselves,more in tune with their surroundings(they HAD to be or they wouldn’t have survived)and very resourceful.All they lacked was our modern technology. NO,I’m NOT an old hippy!! :slight_smile:

Here’s a little experiment for anyone who’s skeptical about unseen and non-understood phenomena…

First, cut 4 equilateral triangles out of thin paper. Carefully glue their edges together to form a tetrahedron. Glue the end of a short length of common sewing thread to one apex. Suspend this assemblage in a bell jar large enough to contain it and allow for motion. Allow the whole construct to sit overnight, to relieve stresses on the thread. Stare at it. You don’t have to believe a thing. It will eventually begin to rotate, usually anti-clockwise. (viewed from the top). Now try these two things:

  1. Will it to stop. Quite likely it will stop.
  2. Will it to start up again in the reverse direction. Quite likely it will do that.

Now try this one very difficult thing:

  1. Explain it.

All I can tell you is, it works for almost everyone, and to the best of my knowledge, nobody knows how or why it works.

… serpent :smiley:
~*~ :wink: Serpie-Pie

I’m no physicist,but could the movement be caused by the force created by the earth’s rotation,causing the thread to twist until it can be twisted no further,then the thread untwists itself,causing the reverse movement? OOPS-I’ve JUST DISCOVERED PERPETUAL MOTION! (Now I can afford all of those High end whistles!) :slight_smile:

Just to clarify, I’m not exactly looking for proof of existence of ley lines, as I happen to already believe in them and I doubt much will sway my opinion on that. :slight_smile:

Feel free to continue to discuss it amongst yourselves though…as I’m sure you will. :wink:

Andrea ~*~

On 2003-01-21 14:23, kevin m. wrote:
I’m no physicist,but could the movement be caused by the force created by the earth’s rotation,causing the thread to twist until it can be twisted no further,then the thread untwists itself,causing the reverse movement? OOPS-I’ve JUST DISCOVERED PERPETUAL MOTION! (Now I can afford all of those High end whistles!) > :slight_smile:

Well, hell…you just solved one of the universes most impossible tasks, in what…10 minutes?

I think you should tackle cold fusion next, and split the profits with me since I suggested it… :smiley:

Aodhan

Interesting, Serpent.

Let me limit myself to the thought experiment for now.
And I trust you for the results. I’ll even reject the easy but partial explanation by the purely physical Coriolis force, which will send in motion any resting pendulum. And gives us the usual gyration sense of hurricanes, whirlpools, etc.

Now, what my bloody gallic cartesian mind would like to learn before setting up the real experiment and wasting a precious anchovy jar is :

  • Did you try this with another regular polyedron ?
  • with a sphere ?
  • with a random potatoid cut out of Polly Ester’s expansions ?
  • with a thin metal wire (like copper thread used for transformers) or any other kind of unwoven fiber ?

Tie-breaking question : are you a Libra ? :roll:
No! PLEASE do not answer this last one! By some miracle, even OT Chiff threads have managed to avoid this topic… Beside, whatever you’d answer, I’d reply “I knew it!” :smiley:

[ This Message was edited by: Zubivka on 2003-01-21 14:41 ]