I am looking at this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Beutiful-Early-Baroque-wood-flute-traverso-Lissieu-/330916563017?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0c2a0849
I currently am playing the Dizi, a 6 hole bamboo flute from China. I was wondering what the difference is. It seems its just the wood vs bamboo right? Is this baroque flute easier to play than dizi? And is the fingering the same?
Sorry for these noob questions. BTW is this ebay model recommended?
No
“Rare Beutiful Early Baroque wood flute traverso- Lissieu”
What’s so rare about it?
I don’t know if this particular baroque flute will suit your needs but the price seems way too high.
I have never played a dizi. However, I suspect the approach to playing a small-holed, small-embouchure flute differs significantly from playing a dizi. The baroque flute has a delicate sound and is designed to be fully chromatic by cross-fingerings and lipping notes up and down. The Lissieu suffers from not having a key, which loses the Eflat completely, makes some notes even more veiled than on a later flute, and loses quite a bit of the third octave.
I have a flute made by the guy who made this flute, and it’s pretty good. I think his prices are fair.
Why are you considering a baroque flute instead of an Irish/classical flute?
Hmmm, i stand corrected.
Isn’t the first time (won’t be the last). Thanks Chas.
I overlooked his website in the discription and thought incorrectly that there was no maker associated with this flutehttp://www.gtmusicalinstruments.com
I’ll start by saying that Gregor Tomaszewicz, the maker, does very nice work. However, I would not recommend this model if you are interested in starting Baroque flute. The Lissieu flute is a transitional model between the Renaissance and Baroque flutes. Starting a few years after the original of this flute was made, flutes acquired an Eflat key. This key made the flutes much more versatile in terms of keys in which they could play and improved intonation. Here are links to the sites of a couple other makers who also make a Lissieu flute. They provide more information on its history and uses.
http://berneyflutes.com/pages/02flutes/models/renaiss_lissieu.html
http://www.renaissanceflute.com/lissieu.html
I think you would be much happier with a Baroque flute with a key. There are lots of good makers out there and decent instruments do appear on eBay if you keep an eye out for them. I’m not a dizi player but I looked at a couple of fingering charts. The fingerings look similar to Baroque flute but there will be some variations. If you still are interested in Gregor’s Lissieu or one of his other models you can contact him through his web site.
In regard to monkeymonk’s post I, for one, do not feel that $440 is out of line for a wooden flute made by a competent maker. Boaz Berney charges $970 for his Lissieu. Peter Noy charges over $1000 for non-keyed Renaissance flutes.
Sorry, im not familiar with the difference of baroque/irish flutes, what I was looking for was an affordable, high quality wooden flute. Now after examining the photos closer, the air hole does seem a bit small, which may be too difficult for me to play at this time. If there is something for around $500 that I should consider once my skill is able to play these, then please give a recommendation. Its unfortunate you can get fine rosewood recorders for $500 (on thomann) but traverse flutes are so much more.