Another Rudall and Rose

There is another Rudall and Rose on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stunning-Rare-RUDALL-ROSE-8-Key-Wooden-FLUTE-c1838-1847-with-case-/151181867856?pt=UK_Woodwind_Instruments&hash=item2333243b50. Am curious about the band around the embouchure. And can anyone with better eyes read that number.

3931?

Embouchure bands, lip plates are common enough on both Rudall and non Rudall antiques. i would guess it’s original and serves to protect the players who might be sensitive to cocus or other tropical hardwood. My old Metzlerish flute has one and my Blackman flute has a lip plate.

take care,
Patrick

The number looks fairly clearly like 3961 to me. It looks a nice flute.

Looks like the only crack is in the barrel. Sigh. Wish I had the money for it.

Yes, looks like a nice one. The two cracks in the head, and barrel (if lined), shouldn’t affect playability and would probably close up somewhat once the flute is hydrated. Go for it Sumaire!

sexy…

Thanks all. Any predictions?

Low market, wonderful flute… About £ 2.000 …ridicolous price…

Can we be sure it plays at A=440? How many RR’s are set sharp, e.g. 445 to 455? How correctable is a sharp flute?

If the Rudall flute is a bit too rich, how about this Dave Williams flute, it is UK only and ends at 11pm tonight, so you would have to be quick.


David

nice flute, interlocking foot keys, great photos (if only everyone took great photos life would be simpler!). Read the description, the serial number is clearly stated (with the date range estimate). 9 days to go and 14 bids already, take it easy guys, patience is a virtue :wink:

if we’re running a sweepstake, I’m guessing it might go a little higher than recent sales, given the excellent photos, and it being the season of Christmas-present-to-self for hungry Chiffers, maybe on the top side of £2,000 GBP

Going out on a limb, and despite the cracks, I’m going to say £3k.

you’d maybe find one in Ireland for a bit nearer to half that price but it’s England and it’s on the Internet, and it’s a classic serial number range, maybe €3k? Don’t fancy the lip plate much and £3k would be close to $5k USD, I’d be surprised but the market is a funny thing and I’m no expert :slight_smile:

Read the description, the serial number is clearly stated (with the date range estimate). :tomato:

Yeah….but, but isn’t there some saying about the best place to hide something is in plain sight? Worked on me.

Lovely flute. The cracks ought to be properly fixed, but that’s routine enough. The short F key has had its down-tube side clipped or filed for some reason (fat-fingered player?), but that’s no biggie. Otherwise just a clean-up and overhaul job. No reason to expect flute in that serial #/date range to be at all HP orientated - it’ll for sure play at modern pitch with the slide open c8-20mm depending on player’s embouchure technique and will likely have a slightly long scale for that and so be a little flat footed plus have a sharp A… Standard R&R, in other words. This one would for sure have fetched £3k plus even unrestored not so many years ago. Looks like there’s a fair bit of interest/bidding activity - over £1k already and 16 bids (why do folk bother? :boggle: ) Particularly nice claw foot touches!

Dunno about predictions - recent form might suggest under £2k, but I think this’ll do better. Not being too serious about it, I’ll take a sweepstake pin-stick at mid £2ks - between £2.4-2.6k.

Good luck Jem. I will be watching because I recently bought No. 3415-the one with the extra Wilkes head and have naturally wondered whether I paid over the current market price or not. Not that it matters that much since I really love the flute. But the predictions from those of you who are able to value antique flutes much better than I suggest I paid a price that was fair for buyer and seller alike. Of course, whether this particular one does or does not reach what might be generally considered to be a high price will partly be determined by pure chance.

I’m not bidding on it! (In case you thought I meant that…). I was just referring to our little C&F “What will it fetch” sweepstake…

I did! I’m just misreading stuff all over these days.

value for money = price paid ÷ (hours of playing x relative enjoyment factor + Chiff&Fipple envy quotient)

Wasn’t it Freud who had something to say about flute envy. . .? :smiley:

Bob