A condition of using this board is, and always has been, willingness to be civil and to refrain from personal attacks. Neither of these is easy to define and regional differences are known to apply. However, like p0rn0graphy, we know it when we see it. (If, you know, hypothetically, we ever have occasion to see it.)
This applies to posts and it applies to PMs: We have to be civil. It can be done. We all have our laspes and I’ve had mine. But it remains a fair condition for use of this privately-owned board. Almost everybody does very well with this, at least almost all the time. Thanks for that.
I try to be civil, but sometimes I deliberately jump out and chew somebody’s head off (and usually the same persons, too), knowing full well that it’s inappropriate to do so. I apologize for all those times.
Yes, incivility and p0rn0graphy share the feature
that you do know them when you see them.
The big difference between them, speaking
personally, is that I dislike incivility.
I have frequented many forums about different topics in my life, and I don’t think I frequented one as good as this one.
People here is very polite and friendly. I’ve found great people on C&F and that touches me.
It’s really a pleasure being here.
Thanks. I agree. I’m proud of the forum and the sort of baffling concentration of good people here. Given the volume of posts, I could hardly be happier with how rarely problems crop up.
I like whistle porn and uilleann pipe porn. And I am also a botanist but I don’t care for lichens, too much fungus involved. Boy! that censor thingy really works. P0rn
I have a rough time here with the civility thing. I spent some time in an environment where if you didn’t harass someone, it meant that they were beneath being considered. Knowing how to push a persons buttons and knowing which ones not to push showed that you payed attention. I lack a certain amount of sympathy and empathy and have found that I sometimes rib and joke in a way that truly offends and hurts others. In such situations I try to apologize unconditionally as fast as I can.
Not to worry. As much as I insist on civility, at the same time, you’ll note the moderators only see need to intervene on the rarest of occasions. This is partly because people here are almost completely uniformly well-intentioned and because we allow for a very broad interpretation of what civility is. I have lived my entire life in the southern United States, where there are very different attitudes about civility than, say, Boston or NYC.
So true. I did it the other way – first half in the northeast, second in the southeast. Up there insults are the accepted way to start friendships. Here they drawl sugary kindnesses no matter what they’re really thinking.
To me, the boards find their own equilibrium. You find those whose opinions matter to you, those you pretty much write off, etc… Would it be uncivil to present my list?
This forum is far less funny or fun than it used to be. I attribute this in large part to the heavy handedness of the moderators. In fact, this has now become so far from being a pub that I suggest renaming/reclassifying it as a tea room.
You can come up with whatever name for a tea room strikes you as being clever and artistically dramatic, but it is just a tea room for dainty old folks, not a pub, where it is expected that there would be a certain degree of roughness and rowdy joviality. This lame gentility that we have degraded to here disqualifies it from the class of “pub”.
Don’t think so, Deej. A saloon, if run properly, makes a pub look like a kiddie pool. In the old days, if you fancied a brawl, cards, cheap whiskey, raucus laughter, cheap women, and the occasional cutting and shooting, you went to a saloon. Except for certain parts of the country where dirt floors are still de riguer, they stopped calling them saloons decades ago. Took a lot of the fun out of it. Pubs are a different matter altogether. They are supposed to serve food along with the drink.
Sorry, you are way off the mark, there. Bars/taverns/saloons were never called public houses (pubs) in the States as far as I know. That is a fairly recent innovation, with bar owners trying to find a label for their establishments to cash in on the exoticness of it.
For what it’s worth, “pub” has wormed its way into the Yank lexicon and out of exoticity by now, at least in some locales. I’ve overheard people use the term with some surprising regularity hereabouts, from well outside the ITM circle, and not in reference to Irish/Scottish/English-themed “bars-in-a-box” or the like.
Well, then. I say let’s not call the Pub the Pub anymore. I vote for “The Shebeen”.
Pubs are a different matter altogether. They are supposed to serve food along with the drink.
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