3rd octave F-Natural fingerings...

I’ve worked out my third octave fingerings on my new keyless Windward flute with thumb hole, except for the F Natural which I cannot get anywhere near. So, out with your suggestions - any F-Nat fingerings which have ever worked n any flute you know in the thrid octave, including C-Natural holes (thumb or key), but no F-Natural hole.

(Many Thanks to Rod Garnett for his help during Boxwood working these out, though a couple have changed due to the presence of the thumb hole.)

I will post the fingerings in the thread where I have reviewed the flute.

'bye,

Chris.

Here are some you can try:

x [Bb] x o | x x [F] o [Eb]

This works on the M&E 6-key, the Hamilton 6-key, my old German 8-key

x x o [long F] | x x [F]

This is an alternate fingering that also works on the above flutes…note that you don’t hold down the E-flat key for this one. It’s not quite as strong as the first fingering but it’s still very usable.

x x o | x o o [Eb]

This is the fingering for Barqoue flute. This is not a strong note even on the Baroque flute, and takes careful control. It really doesn’t want to speak at all on the other flutes. This is the only one I know that works if you don’t have at least one F-natural key.

On a keyless flute, I’m really not sure there’s a way to hit high F-natural at all. Good luck with that–if you do find one that works, please post it!

–James

You might also try: XXO XDO where D is a half-hole. Something else that might work is starting with a standard F# (XOX XOX) and sliding quickly into XXO XOO or XOO XDO.

That might work… the last fingering you suggest (xoo | xDo) will almost speak on my Seery. You can hear it trying.

–James

LOL! That was a typo. I meant XXO XDO. Many discoveries are made by accident, this is no exception.

I just fiddled with my Olwell medium-holed, which Chris Norman once told me had “all the notes in the third octave.” (I wasn’t sure he was ever gonna give it back; a pretty ringing endorsement as far as I’m concerned.) The closest thing to an in-tune Fnat I got was XXO XXO. Of course this will sound E on its own, I pop into it with a G XOX OOO.

If you want an in-tune, reasonably accessible 3rd-octave Fnat, you really need the Eflat key.

Hotteterre gives XXO XOO, but I only got a note between G# and A. I could get a better than nothing note with XXO XDO. Two other charts from that era required an Eb key.

Hugh

That makes the third octave B sound on my flute. Ouch. :smiley: