You can help me if you have Dill Pickles in your kitchen

I came across a worrying rumour in a discussion with other ex-patriots - there are no dill pickles in England. I went to the grocery store this afternoon, and sure enough, it was true. Add one more item to a growing list of AWOL food products.

There were, however, two possible contenders for runner-up. One was “Pickled Dill Cucumbers” and the other was “Cucumbers in Brine”. Different seasonings in each, and to be honest both looked fairly nasty, but I’m willing to give it a shot.

I’d like to choose the one that is closer in ingredients to US dill pickles. So if someone’s got a jar, could you tell me what the ingredients are? Then I’ll know which to choose - the jar full of warty looking things with various small bits of vegetable matter floating around in the jar, or the one with fewer warts, fewer unknown plant bits, but a rather scum-like film on the bottom of the jar. :really:

(Other notable missing items, for the curious: Chicken noodle soup. Baked beans that are not canned in tomato sauce. Ravioli. Teryaki sauce. Rold Gold pretzels. Jello pudding. But at least I’ve finally located my waffle iron!)

Wish I could help you, Beth, but I only have spanish olives stuffed with pimientos.

A very long time ago I worked in a pickle factory. Trust me…you don’t want to know… :astonished:




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Cheers,
David

well, are you talking hamburger dills, kosher dills, hot dills, or just what?

Pickles were cucumbers “once apon a time”, so you’re at least on the right track.

Missy

(who is thinking it might be profitable to open an “USA” grocery store in the UK!)

would that be considered “ethnic?”

I have only recently started eating the pickles they put next to my sandwich at restaurants, Ava, so I have none at home.

I have a “Dill Pickle Rag” in my mandolin repetoire if that helps…

Slan,
D. :slight_smile:

That was one of my brother’s fingerstyle guitar pieces. Great tune!

Cheers,
David

And fresh cucmbers are green on the outside and white on the inside. Now why do you suppose that a typical supermarket pickle is green all the way through? What purpose could there be in impregnating them with green dye? Is it perhaps to hide the fact that if you had a cucumber like the factory’s pre-dyed one you wouldn’t serve it to your family you would throw it in the trash? I mean…you know…the ones I put in the salads that I make don’t have large brown & white splotches on them from starting to rot in the field.

Bon appetite! :smiley:
David

Now I’m completely lost.

Dill cucmbers, in Australia, Britain and throughout Europe are whole cucumbers, often baby cucumbers, pickled. What else could they possibly be? I think these originated in Poland and Hungary. They are absolutely delicious.

Are they mashed in the US or something like that? Are you talking about gherkins?

BTW, Beth, whilst in England do treat yourself to Branston Pickles. Yum.

I have a version with Doc Watson and Chet Atkins together.

Impossibly awesome.

Slan,
D.

Claussen: Cucumbers, Water, distilled vinegar, salt, dried garlic, spices, and then some food sciency stuff

Hamburger Dill slices (local brand): Cucumbers, water, vinegar, salt, alum, and some food sciency stuff

No pickles in England?!? Sucks to be you.

Try this:

http://www.vlasic.com/Products/pickles.html#

Click on a product then click on the little link on the left labeled “Nutrition Info”. It lists the ingrediants. Hope that helps.

No pickles, huh? What concerns me more is the lack of Jello Pudding!

:boggle: Sara (who loves to eat Jello instant chocolate pudding)

Wombat - I’m lost with you…but I’m sitting smack dab in the middle of the continental USA. I think what’s happened is that most Americans have no idea where there food came from. I remember my grandmother making dill pickles…which are simply cucumbers pickled with dill and other spices.

Avanutria - Be brave, try both. Real pickles beat the tarnation out of what passes for pickles in the USA…although those Claussen pickles with all the spices floating in the bottle that are stored in the store cooler are really, really good.

Eric

That vinegar in pickles often but not always has animal ingredients in it or has used animal parts in the manufactoring process.

Just thought somebody’d like to know.

I’ll second that. And you’ll note that Claussens indeed are white on the inside & green on the outside as a cucmber should be. :slight_smile:

Cheers,
David

Hm, I saw those in a different section of the store, and thought they were what I was looking for, but a closer inspection revealed it seemed to be some sort of paste or spread, I think.

A lot of things are in paste form here. There’s even a “cheese and prawn” squeeze tube in the dairy section. I guess they are anticipating a massive loss of teeth in the population sometime soon.

But as they’ve got your recommendation, I’ll give them a try sometime. :slight_smile:

Western Family (a local brand) whole dill pickles:

cucumbers, water, vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, alum, natural flavors, polysorbate 80, yellow 5, blue 1.

I always thought pickles were green because they were immature cucumbers - but maybe the yellow and blue dye is what makes them green?

Don’t worry, Sunny, I’ve gotten some imported over Christmas. I have three chocolate, three vanilla, and two non-jello-brand butterscotch.

Martin had never seen jello pudding before. I made some vanilla stuff the other week.

Martin: “It looks like custard.”

Beth: “Yeah, but it tastes different and has a thicker consistancy. The best part is breaking through the thicker bit at the top.”

[breaks through thicker bit with spoon]

Martin: “Well, that’s it, then. You might as well throw it out now.”

:stuck_out_tongue:

Beth…can tell you’ve been UK’d. You recall, don’t you, that the average Yank would say “part” not “bit.”

You can tell MarMil that the best use we’ve made of Jello pudding was to use it as the cytoplasm in a 7th grade cell model project. The ribosomes, vacuoles, nucleus, etc, were made of different candies.

(then there’s those “bits” in orange juice, aka “pulp.”)

Oh, dear! That IS the best part! I make pudding in a sheet pan so there’s more surface area to thicken . . . oh, well, more for YOU!

We have a brand of “fresh,” i.e., the kind you have to refrigerate, Kosher pickles here, BaTampte, which have that ook at the bottom. Sometimes at the top, too. I think it is a byproduct of the pickling process–it’s mostly clumped alum and whatnot, I think–which large manufacturers must filter out. Just rinse them off.

If that doesn’t appeal, just make yer own! This lady does:

http://www.bigthicketdirectory.com/christian/recipe7.html


The teriyaki sauce is nothing to fret over. I never buy the stuff. Here’s an authentic family (they owned an oriental restaurant) recipe: equal parts soy sauce, red or white wine, and sugar; as much fresh grated ginger as you think it needs (you can use dried ground, too), and optional fresh or dried garlic. If you want it a bit thicker, you can use some corn starch or cook it down until it thickens.

I hesitate to mention it, because they probably don’t have this, either, but you can use a bit of pineapple and/or tropical style fruit juice for a more Hawaiian effect.

Sweet and sour sauce is made from equal parts of catsup and crushed pineapple, thickened with a bit of corn starch.

As for ravioli, were you thinking of Chef Boy-ar-dee canned? (Bleah!) Or fresh/frozen? It’s not difficult at all to make them fresh. You just make the dough, roll it out, apply dollops of filling, put another layer of dough on top, then crimp the edges with a fork. You can cut out circles and do them one by one, or you can do a whole sheet and cut squares. Simmer in lightly salted water until they’re edible.

The filling is the same as you’d use for lasagna . . . 8 ounces of ricotta cheese, an egg, salt, pepper, and maybe some ground parmesan or other hard cheese, or even some finely chopped mozzarella. Oh, wait . . . no ricotta? Probably no cottage cheese, either. Maybe there is some kind of fresh white crumbly cheese? If not, you’ll have to use ground meat.

What about spaghetti sauce? That’s easy enough to do. In a shallow pan, saute onions in a bit of olive oil, then add finely sliced tomatoes and some oregano, salt, pepper, and maybe some garlic. Stir while simmering. In no time at all, it’ll turn into lovely fresh tomato sauce with bits of tomatoes in it. It works with canned tomatoes, too.

I think I saw a can of tomato-sauce stuff in the Brit section of the grocery store–right next to the canned pudding, canned peas, and some kind of brown condiment–so maybe you’re ok on that. I imagine it would taste like Chef Boy-ar-dee.

Chicken soup is made from a few wings and/or the not-so-useful parts of a whole chicken, like the neck and such. Simmer with carrots and celery, salt and pepper, strain out the bones, then add some noodles. Surely they have egg noodles, but if not you will have remembered to make some from the leftover ravioli dough (which you’ve re-rolled, cut into little shreds, and dried).

The beans are a little more complicated. For that, you’ll need dried small white beans, brown sugar, salt pork, mustard, and a large crockery bean pot, which you’ll bake overnight in the oven, getting up every hour or so to water them. (I think you can do them in a baking pan, as well, and might be able to hasten the process by boiling them first.)

Whew! Anything else?

Incidentally, I wouldn’t be too sure that they DON’T expect an epidemic of tooth loss. In Orlando, situated prominently in the midst of all the hotels around Disney World, right there on Universal Drive, there is a . . . Brit dentist. Not necessarily a British dentist, but a dentist whose entire business is apparently Brits who cannot get dental services at home!