Blew my email address twice, unblievable!
Bennc2@aol.com
I think this is really different than the Lark in the Morning situation. Lark was buying large amounts of whistles for the express purpose of marking them way up and making a huge profit on them. It seems clear to me that Mr. Fandango just bought these whistles for his own personal enjoyment, played them for some time and is now ready to part with them. His choice of price is really up to him. I don’t think he’s involved in any price gouging or price fixing or anything like that. I’ve sold plenty of whistles for far more than I bought them for, usually after a year or two of playing them. If he had bought 20 and was now selling them each for $150 I think we’d all be justified in being angry with him, but this is a very different situation. I think we should all cut him a little slack.
Respectfully,
Chris
Just a note to say the e-mail address Fandango posted last does work: I’ve been in contact with him and he seems to be quite an honest fellow…Certainly didn’t deserve to be slammed for offering the message board folks first crack at some instruments.
Loren
I don’t think there is anything wrong with someone selling whistles at any price here. I also don’t think there is anything wrong with people voicing negative opinions about the price. If someone wants the whistle at the quoted price, a negative comment isn’t going to stop them from buying. The difference between C&F and ebay is that ebay isn’t primarily a forum. It does have one of its own though! We are milktoast compared to some of the posts I’ve read there.
I say power to Mr. Fandango and power to anyone who criticizes him publicly and power to anyone who says I am full of s*** because I believe in forums and this one is a positive model in the internet community. Seeing the forest through the trees kind of thing, you know. I’m coming back to edit this post with the link to ebay’s forums.
http://forums.ebay.com/dwc?14@1038848300338@.ee7b9c6
Lisa
PS
speaking of price policing, check out this nightmare story and don’t get any ideas…
http://forums.ebay.com/dwc?50@146.uAR9h0QgEw0^0@.ef5f3d8
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It’s all good.
Hey, Bran, where’d you come up with your username? I’m interested because my husband and I named our son that (he just turned two yesterday). It’s a great name!
Loren - I strongly disagree with your position and the way you state it (not your right to). This Fandango guy can do whatever he legally damn wants to, that doesn’t make it right, fair, decent, wise or anything else positive. And frankly his second holier than thou post was worse than the first.
Philo
On 2002-12-02 14:53, PhilO wrote:
… And frankly his second holier than thou post was worse than the first.Philo
A gentleman* charges what he wants and remains silent.
*) Gentleperson, I mean.
Must be JessieK!!! 
Phil:
I’m wondering what the difference is between selling a sindt for $150 and selling](http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?topic=781&forum=1%22%3Eselling) an O’Riordan for $250? I note totally different reactions here.
[ This Message was edited by: Wandering_Whistler on 2002-12-02 15:40 ]
Wandering,
How much is a O’ brand new? I’m just curious. In this situation, I’ll agree that this person can sell his/her whistles whatever and it’s okay with me. Actually, he/she could be selling the Sindt for 1000$US each as far as I’m concerned. As long as there’s someone who’s willing to pay that price, and that it’s a one time transaction and not a recurring practice, I see anything wrong to it.
It is not me. But if I wanted to sell whistles for more than the price offered by the maker, I would put them on eBay and announce the auctions here.
That said, I find the outlandish negative reactions (to the Sindt whistles being offered for sale at a premium) incredibly ridiculous. I think a lot of people here need something to complain about.
J
This is all pretty funny here!
All those of us who were so upset about Lark in the Morning hoarding Sindts to sell at inflated prices couldn’t care less about this guy selling his whistles for twice the market value.
Why? Because this guy is a whistle player and, unlike Lark in the Morning, he didn’t buy a bunch of Sindts with the express purpose of reselling them at double their original cost. He just bought them, played them for who knows how long, and decided to sell them. I see the process and intent as quite different between the two situations.
Best,
Chris
On 2002-12-02 15:45, Azalin wrote:
Wandering,How much is a O’ brand new? I’m just curious. In this situation, I’ll agree that this person can sell his/her whistles whatever and it’s okay with me. Actually, he/she could be selling the Sindt for 1000$US each as far as I’m concerned. As long as there’s someone who’s willing to pay that price, and that it’s a one time transaction and not a recurring practice, I see anything wrong to it.
Don’t really know, Az. Dale’s old review says $75.00. I know a couple folks on the list who’ve said that amount’s out of date. Loren mentioned paying “twice the cost” for his or somesuch, and that appeared to be the thread where he bought his from Michael Eskin, so I assume that they probably cost in the neighborhood of $150.
On 2002-12-02 15:40, Wandering_Whistler wrote:
Phil:
I’m wondering what the difference is between selling a sindt for $150 and selling](http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?topic=781&forum=1%22%3Eselling) > an O’Riordan for $250? I note totally different reactions here.
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Greg, although I don’t care to comment on the Sindts for sale here, I think that O’Riordans selling at inflated prices are a product of the fact that Pat is likely to shut down production soon. Even if you were to get on his list today, there’s a risk that you will never get the whistle. Thus, the premium on O’Riordans is about more than simply cutting down the wait: it’s about actually getting one of his whistles. Apples and oranges, I think.
Jef
On 2002-12-02 18:19, Jeferson wrote:
Greg, although I don’t care to comment on the Sindts for sale here, I think that O’Riordans selling at inflated prices are a product of the fact that Pat is likely to shut down production soon. Even if you were to get on his list today, there’s a risk that you will never get the whistle. Thus, the premium on O’Riordans is about more than simply cutting down the wait: it’s about actually getting one of his whistles. Apples and oranges, I think.
Jef
I disagree. The post I quoted about the O’Riordan’s selling was made 15 months ago. Chances are that if someone had gotten on Pat’s list then, they could expect a whistle in a few months.
Sure, it can be argued that O’Riordans are rarer than Sindts. They certainly are, and that affects the selling price (Loren sold an O’Riordan himself for $620+ a year later).
Sindts likewise are ‘rare’ in that you have to wait to get one. If someone has one they want to part with, but consider it worth an inflated price, I got no problem with that. If you don’t wanna buy it, don’t.
But to speak frankly, I think that people jumping on Mr. Fandango before his whistles had even been posted to the board for half an hour is crap, pure and simple.
I notice nobody sung his praises for offering his Sweet whistles at half the retail price.
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Maybe I’m wrong, Greg, but what I’ve been hearing for the last couple of years is that Pat’s wait list is around three years and that his age is, well, getting up there.
Like I said, I’m not commenting on the listing of the Sindts other than to say that I think the two scenarios are different. Maybe we disagree then.
Jef
Pat O’Riordan’s waiting list is indeed measured in years, and he tells everyone ordering that he can’t guarantee they’ll ever get their order, because he is planning retirement soon.
There is a very, very good chance that someone placing an order from Pat now would never get their whistles, thus many people are willing to pay whatever it costs them to get one of his instruments.
Best,
Chris
Don’t you guys see that you are all the same? High price, low price, premium, no premium: It doesn’t matter. It is all money $$$. You are all supporting the dehumanizing exploitation of the money-economy! Subjugated in wage slavery and brain-washed in the consumer cult, you are dirt under the soles of the rent-parasites and interest-vampyres.
Support this insanity no longer! Down with money, currency and specie! Liberty and Dignity!