What is the word on these reeds? any views

http://cgi.ebay.com/Uilleann-pipe-Dronr-Reed-Carbon-Fiber-From-Q1T-/330584586895?pt=UK_Woodwind_Instruments&hash=item4cf8607a8f

I ordered a set. They should arrive next week. I’ll post some feedback.

Tanx PJ. Cheers

I have a set of these that Seth Hamon forwarded to me. I have been meaning to post my findings. It was discouraging when I tried to get them to work. They don’t fit in my drones. I tried to use the tenor reed in the middle drone, but couldn’t get it adjusted. The pressure didn’t match my other drones/reeds. They arrived with a piece of thread between the body and the tongue because the tongue won’t stay bent away from the body. The o-rings are too loose. I was thinking of trying different material for the tongues.

It’s true that these problems could probably be addressed, but they will take more time than I want to devote to them.

The o rings look a bit bulky from the pics. I was thinking orthodontal bands would fit tighter. Hmm. Thanks for sharing

On Highland bagpipes, the carbon fiber drone reeds are considered premium…PJ, let us know how they sound and fit - -thanks!

I am guessing once properly adjusted, they should sound full and rich.

I’m thinking that a cane tongue might be better. Maybe even put a coat of varnish on it.

Reedmaster, speaking solely on my experience with highland bagpipe drone reeds - carbon fiber is superior. Once fixed properly, they are steady and firm. They do not need to be adjusted as far hummidity like cane reeds. Even Grade 1 pipers in any given band uses synthetic drone reeds. They have come a long way. :slight_smile:

the tongue won’t stay bent away from the body [because] The o-rings are too loose…orthodontal bands…properly adjusted…

speaking from my exp with reeds of this type:

suggest plastic bread loaf twist ties, the kind with the metal wire in them, instead of o rings or brace bands. maybe over one layer of teflon tape. tighten the bread tie with plyers a la basoon reed & snip excess.

all this assuming of course the aluminum body portion fits into the reed seat.

I ordered these dirt cheap reeds just for fun and I actually found them to be quite nice.

Someone put some work and thought into these. They were well made and mine had tight O rings on all reeds. I think someone is watching the feedback. You have to set the carbon fiber tongues yourself. I actually prefer to do this myself rather than come preset by someone else. Though this might be a pain for some pipers.

The beds were flat and you can easily remove the tongues and try other materials. Additionally the reeds are long and there is room to shorten them if need be.

They are dirt cheap, and good little reeds for someone wanting to get a set of synthetic reeds to try and be willing to adjust them or possibly alter them.

I prefer to make my own reeds out of brass with basswood tongues, after making 100s of cane reeds and getting fed up with the extreme dryness and humid swings where I live. I was surprised to find the brass/wood combo to be just as nice in my opinion.

  • Jason

Good news then. Worth a try at that price? Cheers

Nope. Definitely not. (Bought and tried them). I am sure they are great for GHBs, but Uilleann Pipe reeds are a very different cattle of fish. At the very narrow tenor dronereed the thin tongue won´t get steady. Better give the money to Uilliam.

ahh, sorry to hear that…well I did order them, I guess I will see soon enough…

It will depend how your pipes are set up. I tried a set of these over the weekend at the Chateau d’Ars (was St Chartier) in Mike Hulmes pipes (light setup) and they worked fine both in his normal set and also a barrel drone set

The Half set has separate bores for each drone and the barrel a common airspace

Have now ordered a set and will post again on this subject when I have tried them

Chris

Carbon fiber on metal… ahhhhhhh the warmth of it all!

Warmth? Is that what I should call the white-hot rage I feel when my very best guill reeds clamp shut on every third high “A,” when the dew-point changes, or if somebody opens a window? :wink:

Of course I much prefer the sound of guills. My experiments in making my own composite reeds (cane tongue on brass tube) are also very encouraging – when they work, they seem to have just the right combination of warmth and buzz.

But until I master the frustrating art (so far) of keeping guills working, and of sanding perfectly flat ellipses (the absence of which is keeping my homebrew composites from being very reliable, I think), I’m keeping my plastic EZ-Drones close at hand as “Plan C,” without shame.

I ordered some of the carbonite-aluminum ones, too, for yuks (maybe they’re “Plan D”).

–Mick

Below is a photo of the aluminum bed you get with the carbon fiber reeds, and the current reeds I use in my drones. Ignore the big nasty blob of solder in the photo, it was one of my early attempts. I prefer to make the beds of my reeds more open like a cane reed. For me personally, I have found basswood to be the most reliable after trying many different types of wood. I use the basswood strips you buy for architectural models. After cutting a tongue out, I pare it down with a chisel. One thing I sometimes do when setting the tongue is to make a 2nd bend and then advance the binding to close the reed from this 2nd bend. This style of reed has worked well for me and my crazy climate.

  • Jason


Very helpful, very cool reply, Jason. I’ll be sure to try basswood. Thanks!

–Mick

IMO the big problem with many plastic tongues (and this goes for the carbon fiber tongues): Sometimes - depending on the drone and the setup of course - you would put this blop of sealing wax on the tip - more often than not lengthen or shorten it by shifting the bridle just isn´t enough to get it pressure - steady. However, it does not stick on these. Wooden tongues are better. The best bet of course is: If the drones are by X, get dronereeds from X.

Quite right. My aforementioned “very best guill reeds” are by Pat Sky, unsurprisingly nothing matches my Pat Sky half set better. Along with some very nice guill reeds by Ted Anderson, they’re the reference-points for everything else I’m experimenting with.

–Mick