vpipes

Any news of it?

I emailed 'em over the summer, and they basically said “they’re coming soon”. He couldn’t give me anything more specific than that. They also listed the price at a little under $1000.00 US.

I get the feeling there’s either a cash-flow problem, or some kind of consistent glitch to work out.

they said three years ago that it is coming soon for sale :confused:

They said the same five years ago…

They also say “vWhistle” is coming.
I think the “v” is for “Vaporware”.

Wow…I didn’t realize they’d been around that long.

I’d hesitate to even consider it now.

Think they’re still trying to decide if the reamers they used are Coyne’s or not. Until that one’s answered, I can’t see them being out any time soon :smiley:

Jon

Well there are videos floating around of prototypes being played, so they’ve managed to come quite far in terms of development. The last I heard, they had issues sourcing reliable suppliers at a cost effective price for the components.
The problem I see with the vpipes, as great as they are conceptually, is that the cost they are projecting to sell for is up there with a practice set. It will be hard to convince a beginner to spend the similar $$ on something that emulates the pipes when they can get the real deal. There is a market for them of course but I think its niche market in the already niche market of uilleann pipes.

I have a hard time to believe that the delay has anything to do with components suppliers.
If you look up on what has been posted about the Vpipes in the past and the information on Liraman’s web page from 2007, two years seem to be a very long time to find co-suppliers and work out agreements.

http://www.liraman.se/uilleannwinter/The_vPipes_men.html
http://www.liraman.se/uilleannwinter/vPipes_Links.html

Even though the Vpipe concept isn’t fully developed it already seemed to be way ahead of any competitors a few years ago. Why then wait with marketing to get others a good chance to come up with something similar?
A more likely reason, as I see it, is related to economy. If there are legal issues regarding the patent the developer might be better off if he waits until it expires …? or something similar to that.
But this is nothing but speculations.

/MarcusR

You have a Haneman set Mikko, you don’t need the Vpipes! :wink:

/M

Artificial Uilleann pipes have no place on this forum,if fact they have no place in the musical world and anyone who would even consider them a substitute for Uilleann pipes should be thrown off this forum and banned from ever owning a real set of Uilleann pipes .

RORY

didn’t say that need vpipes…just ask about news of them.Btw there new epipes"Fred Morrison sound"includes also Uilleann sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cg697xByxw
quite terrible compared to vpipes

Some fairly “hardline” thinking (although just and adequate :smiley: ) but there is truth in it. Something to consider anyway.

I agree. They might be worth something if they sounded ok and were considerably less expensive.

I’ll play whatever I like to play, thank you very much. :wink:

I think that the vpipes are a great idea, but they will need to have a built in weather sensor, and a little cap that can be pried off, so that when the weather sensor detects a humidity change, you can get inside of it and adjust some little dohicky, repeatedly.

Mutiny on the Forum!!! I’m starting a new villeann piping forum: chipandfipple.com

Whose with me??? Come on! It will be free-thinking, technologically advanced group. Heck, if I win the lottery, I might even take the group to start a new colony on another planet. Of course we will have to recruit some female vpipers.

(sorry for this post, my meds haven’t kicked in yet).

I feel that the V-Pipe market is very limited and small. Once a small demand is filled, the product and the concept will likely diminish into nonexistence. Sad, but I honestly cannot see it as a big money making venture and perhaps one that may not be worth developing any further.

I think the only market will be people who do studio work.
Sound engineers will prefer an electronic option for recording.

It surprises me how often the uilleann pipes are used in background music for TV programmes.
I have heard many on the Discovery Channel.

There are probably only a couple of guys who get these jobs, so as Joseph says, the potential market will be tiny.
To most pipers it will be… $1000? Yer auntie’s bollox.

Mukade

I’m in disagreement with the majority here. I think it would be a great tool for practice. I’m sitting in the San Jose (California) airport right now and I’m playing a Deger Pipe, which is a Highland electronic chanter. They run about $600. I wouldn’t even be playing Highland pipes anymore if it weren’t for this thing because most of my practice work is done on it. I’ve been playing Highland pipes for 37 years and this is the best tool to come along. I’ve had it for 10 years. I’ve now got another hour before flight time and I’ll get an hour of practice in, and another hour while I’m on the plane (with earphones).
I’ve always been amazed at how vehemently Uilleann pipers have opposed the idea of any kind of practice instrument, insisting that you can’t learn bellows technique, bag control, blah blah blah. Nobody said you could…but you can sure learn tunes and improve fingerwork with one. Is the Deger a replacement for a set of pipes? Of course not. I’ve played in a Celtic Rock band (http://www.myspace.com/standeasy) for over 5 years and I’ve never considered using an electronic pipe with the band.
I don’t see the vpipes as a replacement for an Uilleann pipe. I see it as a great potential practice tool. What if you could practice well after the family went to bed…or in an airport, on a plane, sitting in a car waiting to pick someone up. I’m sure I’ll get agreement from NOT one member of this forum…so what. I guess it’s not unexpected that in a segment of traditional music that those involved want to cling to tradition and declare all else as useless.

Although I think I understand some points, I don’t really agree overall.

If you read back a bit, Peter Laban mentioned that his pupils didn’t have too much trouble with finerings etc., but with the overall coordination (not quoting him, but the meaning is like that I believe).

I don’t see how vpipes are going to emulate lifting the chanter off the knee, for example, shake vibrato etc. Also, with varying pressure, staccato notes can have very different accents - can’t be emulated there as well.

Highland pipes are maybe pipes, but very different instrument (no staccato, for example). it’s not too hard to make electronic whistle as well.

And if we understand we use it only for practising fingerwork…I think that handles in public transport, and all kinds of sticks fill the job just as well, and are much cheaper.

I don’t see how…

Precisely.
My point exactly. I’m OK with being the only piper who doesn’t brillantly acquire great finger technique immediately and effortlessly. It’s a lot of work and practice for me. Maybe the market for vipeps is one unit. I’ll take it.