Sanding saddle

Was watching this video of Colin Ross making NSP reeds, he had the cylinder/sandpaper clamped in a vice. Hmm. Now, I keep an old hand drill clamped in my vice to use as a reed winder, so I slapped a couple of hose clamps on some hardware store dowel, and fitted some legs, which go into two holes drilled into my work table:

This makes sanding slips a bit easier. You get a longer stroke, don’t have to fuss about with grabbing the paper, wrapping the paper, holding down the paper…Brad Angus tells me he also clamps cylinder/sandpaper in the vice, when making batches of reeds. Lots of reeds. I feel queasy after two of the accursed things, myself. Brad also uses belts for belt sanders for this - more durable.

Legs are just more 7/16" dowel. I had to taper these to get them to fit, I used my wood lathe but you could as easily just whittle them. Or make sure they actually slot into the holes in the first place.

Pretty slick! Thanks.

3M sprayglue(http://www.artdiscount.co.uk/product/3m_spraymount_400ml_repositionable_adhesive/) quite handy too.

That set up would just be the most awkward thing for me. Scraping left to right (if I’m seeing this pic correctly)… …i can’t do it. Suppose it’s all how you learned, initially. Also.. having one dowel that big for a dedicated one-grade of sand paper, strapped on… hmmmmm… :boggle:

(If anyone cares), I have different sizes of plexi-glass tubes that I put in a vice. I scrape forwards and back.. Personally I work appx 1/2 of the slip at a time (it ends up being more than 1/2 the slip more like 3/4, and I keep and eye on how far I’m going by measuring the dip/depth of gouge), working, driving it with the right hand, while using finger pressure with the other on top of the cylinder. I’ve gouged to apprx the dip I need before it goes on to the cyl., btw.

I use 3M adhesive sanding paper (diff. grades-I get mine from Stewart-McDonald). It’s mega fast an as you can see from the pic, if I need to go to a diff grade, it’s a fast rotation to exchange sides.

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…which helped to form this

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I stole Paddy Keenan’s method and have been using sandpaper wrapped around a reject piece of cane tube. Kinda made sense to me.
Now if I could just get the fecking scrape right (not to mention the time to)! :swear:

DUH! Shit, why don’t these simple ideas formulate somewhere near the forefront of my mind so that I can easily access them?
Arbo

I thought Paddy’s weapon of choice was a beer bottle. Cane tube, that’s going to give you a ton of arch, being so small, thus lips will be reallllllly open unless you use a hugely open staple, closing the lips back down.

How do you get the sanding uniform along the length of the slip, Kinch? Also do you have more cylinders you pop in and out of the vice, with various grades of sandpaper on 'em?

I got the very strong impression that Paddy’s “weapon of choice” is whatever’s to hand at the time! Anyway, the reed I saw him make that way seemed to work fine. It had incredibly long blades, though. I wonder if that might be a factor in dealing with the curve; more room for binding? Or maybe that’s something he picked up when they got their reed stock from the elder tree in the churchyard?

Anyway, I still haven’t made a really good reed myself, but I don’t think I’m seeing excessive curvature on my slips. Various leaks, splits, cracks, crappy scrapes and lots of other clumsy/stupid mistakes yes, but in general the “eyes” appear comparable to the eye on my good working reed.

How do you get the sanding uniform along the length of the slip,… Also do you have more cylinders you pop in and out of the vice, with various grades of sandpaper on 'em?[/quote]

I’m CONSTANTLY checking my work/slip. The forming of the slip IMO is the most important part. It’s the foundation… if things aren’t symmetrical…bad things happen…and then the good things never happen! :wink:

Uniform sanding: I’m turning the slip around, scraping one side, then the other. Wait, it’s much more than 1/2, I’d say more like 3/4s, and then I turn it around, and do the same thing. I stop frequently to check what’s how I’m doing.

I measure the dip across the entire slip, and I do check my center thickness after I everything is looking, measuring (dip), and feeling right (as in BK’s idea of flex). IF things are going well, the different elements start to come into focus simultaneously, though some faster than others. That’s why a clear calm head is important during reed endeavors.

Too, I check tails and hip area w/ basic measurements, and I check those with how flexible the tails are when I bend them. If the tails are not flexing right (meaning too stiff), and I’m at my lowest number, I’ll ditch the reed. If the tails are too thin then the aperture will be wayyy to open, and trying to fix that (IMO) is pointless. * You’ll spend way more time trying fix that issue then it’s worth, + more than likely, your reed won’t work well, much less sound well.

I also use Tim Britton’s idea of finger pressure on the slip (while sanding; I should say, “fingers”), as I tend to have one edge that has a wee bit more pith. Too, when the finished head is ready for scrape, I finger pressure to control the shape of how the head is scraping down.

I have more cylinders (get them from Tim Britton-he supplies that stuff), and I MAY use a very tight diameter one to A) remove the pith issue I mentioned above…angling the slip will spare the finished gouge B) taking down the thickness at the hips and tails.

Hope that helps! :thumbsup: