Review of Brass Serpent w/ sound, pic

Okay, let’s see what I can come up with here. Bill has not been told my review beforehand, mostly because I am making it up as I go :slight_smile: but he told me “I expect only honesty, not holding anything back if you find something you don’t care for.”

So, here goes!

Oh, background on me for newcomers - I’m entirely too chattery on the board, been playing whistle for about a year, most people have probably heard clips since I like to upload for others to hear. I won this Serpent in a contest and was not obligated to review it.

First impressions

I received this whistle when I got to NY the last day of November. It was kinda nice to have a new whistle waiting at the end of a long drive! The whistle was in a soft bag, green with a brown leather drawstring. I’m not sure what the material is. Bill, you may want to consider making padded bags, as I don’t know how well this material would hold up over time.

First thought when I picked it up - This whistle is heavy! Without using any scales, just my two hands and other whistles I have around, I’d estimate the Brass Serpent is about the same weight as a Meg D, Dixon tunable D, and Feadog C all put together. You definitely KNOW when you’re holding one. But it didn’t seem to make it harder to play.

When the whistle arrived, the tuning slide was very loose - perhaps a bit too much material was machined out? Last night I put a bit of teflon tape on and now it is quite secure, and it was easy to adjust it into tune with the tape on, though I won’t be taking it apart anytime soon.

There is quite a bit of engraving on the whistle, which surprised me, as it’s my first decorated whistle. I knew to expect the “Serpent” logo on the back of the head, but there is also a celtic knot on the front and an etching of vines and flowers winding about the toneholes. The engraving is very well done, especially the tonehole parts. The celtic knot is a bit offcenter but that’s okay. The key (D) is stamped on the back (upside down, I think! :wink: ) with a bit more engraving around it.

Sorry for the lousy picture, I’ll get more up eventually.

How does it play?

Well… listen! “Shores of Lough Gowna” - my apologies for the spelling.

http://www.rit.edu/~eeg6662/cf/serpent.mp3 (252 kb)

When I first got it I thought “Wow…this is Really breathy.” I normally play very pure whistles, so I wasn’t sure if I liked it. Also, since the blade is at such a low angle, I could feel my own breath on the fingers of my left hand as I played! I mentioned this to Bill in the chatroom one of the first nights of December and he said “When you teflon tape the tuning slide, it will become less breathy.” I was doubtful, but sure enough, he was right. I can still feel it a little bit but not at all like it was before. I agree with other reviewers in that the windway should be narrowed quite a bit - it takes a LOT of air to play and I felt like I was playing a low whistle in terms of how often I had to figure out where to breathe.

Hmm, what else can I say.. I don’t know what Bill’s regular price is for Brass Serpents. I do know that since I don’t really go for the breathy whistles, it wouldn’t be tops on my wish list. However, it is a very cool little whistle, and I like it, and I won’t be getting rid of it anytime soon!

I welcome other questions, here on the board or privately.

Edited to add the review - last night was just a sound clip and picture. This review was written when there were three replies to the thread.

[ This Message was edited by: avanutria on 2002-12-08 12:00 ]

Beth, that is the best I’ve yet heard one of the beasties sound! It obviously takes a Real Whistler to make one truly stand up and sing!
:slight_smile:
Thanks,
Serpent

Yes, very nice playing Beth. How did you record that? Special equipment/software? I’ve never had a ton of luck with the Windows sound recorder.
I got one of the Serpent’s tooters also, and will post my comments after I’ve had a bit more time to play it. For the moment, I will say that this whistle is a LOT more refined and finished looking than the prototype that Bill sent to Jessie. When I took it out of the velvet pouch, my wife actually asked “Wow, is that gold plated?”

Thanks, Bill! I did the tefloning last night and it did make a difference.

Paul - I used the mic I have for recording sessions (Sony ECM-907) and the shareware program Goldwave.

[ This Message was edited by: avanutria on 2002-12-08 09:30 ]

Very interesting tonal quality. Nice playing, Ava. :slight_smile:

Thank you for a terrific review, Beth! You took quite a lot of time with that, and I’m very grateful that you are enjoying the whistle.

Okay, on to address the negatives.

  1. Breathy - Understand. You got one of the heads made with the same fipple stock as the ones I sent to Jessie and Tyghress. I will send you a new head tomorrow, with return postage so you can send that one back. All I have to do is unsolder that fipple and replace it with the new stuff, and all will be fine - don’t want my customers gasping! :smiley: I think Paul got one of those, too, so I’d better get him a new one before my whistles attain a Reputation for causing hyperventilation!! :smiley:

  2. The bag is, believe it or not, quite sturdy. The fabric is a synthetic stretch velvet, sewn (French seamed) with heavy nylon. I make them myself, so I know what goes into them. Five of them survived the entire seven-week run of the KC Renaissance Festival, being carried on belts every day and generally kicked around for the duration. I don’t think that one will break down any time soon. Tell you what - try to tear it. If you succeed, let me know, and I’ll send you a new one! :smiley:

Thank you once again for a terrific and detailed review, for taking the photo, and especially for the “Sound of the Serpent”! :slight_smile: With my lousy playing, I can’t really tell how good they can actually sound!
Cheers,
Bill Whedon

I did indeed recieve one of the breathy Serpents ( perhaps that’s a hiss…). I’ve already talked to Bill about it, and he’s making a new head for me ( well, for the whistle anyway). I will post a review when I have that in hand.
Actually, the whistle as it stands may well fill a niche in the whistle market. If someone wants a very quiet whistle eg for playing in an apartment with thin walls, this Serpent may fill the bill. You can play allout and not make a ton of noise. OTOH, you would be totally drowned out in even a small session-- again this might be a welcome thing for session newbies. I definitely think Bill’s latest whistles have tons of promise once he gets the airiness a tad under control, which I have confidence he will.

Well, as I told Paul, I unearthed the base cause of the breathiness, and have just spent the past 4 hours in my shop remanufacturing a holding clamp so that it not only holds and clamps, but keeps the bloody fipple stock dead level in the milling machine. A slight tilt, measuring 0.020" end to end on a 7" length of stock, gave me 3 out of 5 “breathy” fipples. Now I get to remanufacture and replace about 9 of the little darlings, and toss about $35 worth of pre-milled fipple stock in the scrap bin!

Moral of this story: Trust your tools, but mike it anyhow. :blush:

Murphy was an optimist!
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