Recorder Vs. Tin Whistle.

Whistle
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http://www.chiffandfipple.com/norelco.html#_ftn1

Tunable?: PW- Maybe, Recorder, No, Norelco, No.

Wait a darn minute, some Recorders are tunable in the exact same fashion as penny whistles.

Used by people with a sense of humor
pennywhistle: yes
recorder: no
norelco: no

Nonsense. I haven’t stopped laughing yet, and I do stand up comedy once a month. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sounds crappy

PW: Rarely
Recorder: Usually
Norelco:Always

Well, Norelco wins by a nose. Still, are you telling me that you do not like the melodic warbling of a youngster blasting o2 through a plastic tube with holes punched into it?

But seriously, a good recorder should not be confused with a bloody flutaphone.

:swear:

{it is safe to click the 2nd link. It is sound-free. Just stare at the image and imagine the horrors it could produce.}

And actually, if we want to talk about horrible, god awful noises… I’m teaching my roomate (who adores, among other things, rap) to play the tin whistle. I started her on Maids of the Mourne Shore, since, near as I can tell, its the ITM varient of ‘Mary had a little lamb.’

My god, the untold trepidation… the dread! Oh, those things that come from the fipple of my once loved whistle; lo, they are demonic sounds. Squeeks that belie the very sorrows of the Banshee. Agonized screams from the deepest bowel of hell. A belch of Satan!

But she’ll get better. Right?

Off topic!

But anyway, here’s How I’ve look at the Recorder vs Tin Whistle duel.

Basically, you have Ireland vs England here. (The french have recorders, but they call them something nasal sounding. The germans have recorders, but we don’t poke them. They start wars. o.o) Tin Whistles are the highlanders rebellious, chiffy two octave answer to englands smooth, two-1/2 octave favorite.

I mean, basically, an Irishmand looked at a recorder and said, “Cloddy broons, ah could do thet!”

But then realized that the english play recorders, and said, “Feck thet!”

So he hammered the exact same instrument out in tin, gave it two parts instead of three, and left off those four holes extra holes.

Well, thats one account.

The other account, far more gruesome, has the irishman kill the english recorder player in a drunken rage, and slap the recorders mouthpeice onto the end of a two-piece fife…

They say that dead englishman haunts these forums to this very day. :frowning:

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Stop swearing!

You’ve said “re****er” at least ten times in your post! :astonished:

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LMAO!!!

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Playing recorder gives you hairy finger pads.
Don’t ask me how I know.

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My Gen high G is chromatic!

When played right - folks see all the colours of the rainbow (just before they pass out with blood streaming from their ears).

I’ve hear that the Bernard O Low C has a similar effect when applied correctly, as does a Village Smithy A - only with extra stars!! :laughing:

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While it may be true that some recorders “are” tunable like a whistle, it would be rare to find many designed to be tunable, as recorders are, by their nature designed to play at a very specific pitch, and rarely come with a tuning slide.

Typically, if someone wants to adjust the tuning on a recorder, simply pulling the tenon out of the socket a bit is not the way it’s handled: If the recorder plays sharp, tuning rings are made and inserted into the socket. If the recorder plays flat, the top tenon and shoulder are shortened, in order to bring the instrument to pitch.

It really isn’t typical to find a recorder that is mean to be “adjustable” like whistles with tuning slides are.

Loren

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I realy do love the sound of recorder bands playing merry-old medieval songies with crumhorns and cornemuses and such. However, in the musical menagerie, the recorder seems somewhat sheepish next to the full goaty smallgood that is a whistle!

I cannot imagine a sheep perched atop my volkswagen, however, I have delighted in a jig and a dance there myself, and also delighted in pushing Billy off of my car with a clothes-prop.

Damn it - i’m off to the pub to relate the tale of another Billy!

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I wish I could speak Australian. I’ve been to the Outback Steakhouse any number of times but still haven’t picked up the language.

I suspect much of the recorder’s sound is in how it is played. I play some Irish tunes on my recorder and it handles the cuts and strikes just fine. Played without tonguing, it sounds, to my ear anyway, like a whistle with a pure tone and little chiff.

Oops. Sorry Blackout: “fecking r******r”

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:laughing:

In all seriousness, a pennywhistle handles higher notes a lot better than a recorder. A recorders high registers sounds very very Hoarse after about the second register’s A – and while it technically has a third register, its so hoarse and takes SO much air… and it sound like a train cry.

Its easier to do a roll on a recorder, and other little embellishments, due to the number of alternative fingerings it has for certain notes - and the ever useful thumb hole, which can be used to cut notes that you might normally not be able to, and lets you roll together two cuts in a row that both sound different.

However, a recorder handles low notes with a much fuller, rounder sound than the pennywhistle, and can play a chromatic scale. (If a penny whistle can do this, I havn’t figured it out yet. Half holing doesn’t always produce flats/sharps, and neither does cross fingers. It might just be this horrible, battered sweetone I’m using. I’ll amend this when my Sweetheart D gets back from her surgury.)

Also, the recorder has more holes and therefore, more NOTES - though some of them are, admittedly, hypothetical. =)

However, the pennywhistle is available in a LOT more keys.

I play both instruments. They are all my children.

:smiling_imp:

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If you know how to laugh at yourself you’re 95% there. However this is a component that cannot be taught.

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Also, beware of people who are payed by the “Crikey” - these are not real Australians - after some research we believe the most prominent professional “Crikey” was manufactured in the labs at “News limited” (stress limited). The current “Crikey” artifice is believed to be in the pay of a certain ultra right wing organisation pretending to be the Australian government. These people do not know how to play whistles.

I will now go in search of some sound bytes of an ITM derivative called “Bush Music” to post in a new thread - this will be difficult because “Bush Music” tends to shun media of all sorts. Although a latent music form, it is IMHO a far better way to penetrate the core Oz paradigm. I might add that the form is currently undergoing something of an evolutionary leap - I am following it keenly.

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I’ve never heard an aussie say “crikey” unless they were making fun of an american. :frowning: