rakes???

Having spent a considerable amount of time in and about the celtic music scene, I have encountered my fair share of “Rakes of” tunes… And so I’ve decided to make this inquiry on the good old Chiff and Fipple forum:

What exactly is a rake anyway???

(I can only assume that these wonderful old tunes were not being written
about lawn care equipment.)

I’ve heard a few different theories, but I’m hoping that someone can give me a definite answer, and help me put this mystery to rest…!:slight_smile:

a rake usually plays by ear,
a rake won’t listen
a rake usually gets drunk
a rake won’t tell you :moreevil:

“As I was at the Fair of Athy
I saw an old petticoat hung out to dry
I took off my trousers and hung them to dry
To keep that old petticoat warm.”

To the tune of the Rakes of Kildare…

\Rake, n. [OE. rakel rash; cf. Icel. reikall wandering, unsettled, reika to wander.] A loose, disorderly, vicious man; a person addicted to lewdness and other scandalous vices; a debauchee; a rou['e].

An illiterate and frivolous old rake. --Macaulay.

Source: Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Pretty much the same as a “buck”, a “hellraiser” or a “bit of a boyo”. From its frequent occurrence in tune names, I would take it to be meant more affectionately (enviously?) than Webster’s censorious tone suggests.

That pretty much describes many of us, right?! “Rakish Kevin” :smiley:

Irish redneck maybe?

Have you ever heard the redneck suicide cry?


“Hey, guys, watch this!”

For a dramatic demonstration, rent Dangerous Liaisons. The character played by John Malkovich is an excellent example of a restoration period rake. Not the kind of guy you want your daughter hanging out with.

Hmmm…Rakish Valmont… just doesn’t sound right :laughing:

-No E

Rakish Glencnoc?

Rake can also be a verb in Ireland… & not just a lawncare verb.

To Rake: Wild, fast and irresponsible action eg driving

…the sort of thing your “rednecks” would probably do all the time.


By the way, in Ireland a Redneck is a “culchie

The equivalent in Scotland is a “choochter” [pronounce 2nd ch as they do in loch]


Boyd

Culchie, and proud of it, sir.

One of them there things that done gathers leaves in the fall? :slight_smile:

les rateaux de guimauve

If he’s a dedicated party animal and does his level best to not keep it in his pants, he’s a rake.

It was also the custom amongst country dwellers to go, from time to time, for a bit of a ramble to hit as many pubs and hospitable farms as one could find and get rip-roaring drunk, with all the subsequent trouble (craic) one could get into. This was called “going on a rake”, and the one who was doing so was called a “rake”.

Lots of tunes are named after supposedly memorable binges in various localities, e.g. The Rakes of Westmeath, The Rakes of Mallow, etc. But if it really was that good of a rake, who the hell could remember anything? :laughing:

djm

Hey lixnaw,

On your avatar, you have written “Raven’s Medicine”. The bird on the shield looks more like an anhinga than a raven.

Ted