I debated with myself about replying to this thread. I don’t bother with stuff like that, most of the time. Personally, I agree with Jack, though he could be more tactful in the way he says things. But that’s not his personality. He’s still a nice guy. I’d like to suggest that perhaps one of the biggest problems we have, in general, is simply assuming the worst of anyone–that they’re an obnoxious bigot, recorder-lover, whatever–instead of trying to assume the best. We may not always be right when we do that, but it prevents a lot of unnecessary offense. Instead of trying to take whatever anyone says with a malicious intent, assume you misunderstood their intent and they really ARE human, after all. This goes both ways and applies to all people. Just my two cents. yawn I’m bored with my post. That’s why I let the other people do the talking.
This might escape the reckoning of newcomers, but this thread reminds me of the ol’ days. Like 'It’s Sickening" and “Farewell, Friends and Morons.” Nyuk. Kinda edgy, some offense taken, some mutual admiration. That’s the spirit, chiffsters.
Oh yes, and certainly errant pedantry…I guess…whatever that really means.
So what is “the truth” exactly then, Azalin – that you have latent erotic feelings towards Murphy? Does Jack trigger a reaction in you? Come on – you can talk about it here instead of playing with your flute – I don’t think it will be too boring for Murphy. He’s probably very interested… if you know what I mean.
Moi? I would nevertake the mickey blisson anyone. That would be rude (and fairly disgusting). I have been known, however, to take the mickey out of folks (though that’s still fairly disgusting when you think about it).
Let me just say that I’m glad the world (including C&F) is not as unchanging and stifling as some would seem to prefer.
THAT’S IT!!! I knew all of this reminded me of something. It was the “good old days” on C&F when people were venting about the conglomeration of OT’s on the whistle forum and the newbies who didn’t know when to shut up. Gee. . .feels just like the other day.
And, Murph, I know you don’t know me. But from what I can tell, you still seem like a decent chap. And, fwiw, I don’t think you’re a Nazi either. A little opinionated, maybe. But a Nazi? Never.
Backing up to the post that mentions the colassal irritation of thread hijacking. . .A hearty Hear, Hear! It is nails on chalkboard to have an interesting thread on whatever topic, musical or non, hijacked by someone who has to prove how witty they are – how quick with innuendo. Or the same effect but in the opposite direction: the pseudo-naive purposefully ‘misunderstanding’ for attention.
Anyone get the sense that at least some of the board should be like a really good session? A private conversation held in a public arena? Join a thread if you have something meaningful to contribute and ignore it if you can’t? Not just the deep ‘topical’ threads, but even the ones – especially the ones – you find to be a nuisance. Maybe post your witticism or hijack in PM?
Okay, okay. I know it won’t happen. But wouldn’t it be nice?
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Oh yeah, and I think newbies are great and should be encouraged to ask their questions. Search is a crappy way to facilitate a discussion. If you don’t want to hear/see ‘what whistle should I get’ or ‘how do I learn to sound good’ skip the thread. Other no-longer-newbies would be happy to post answers and opinions.
I still don’t see your point, Bloomfield. He’s saying he isn’t happy with HIS experience in this forum and wants changes made to suit HIS preferences. To me, (not just from these quotes, but from his statement at the start of this thread,) it appears that Jack is complaining about how his personal expectations aren’t being met. He points a “few” others have agreed with HIS view so he now feels emboldened to initiate this thread and lecture us on how to fulfill his preconceptions about what this board should be. If Dale consulted Jack prior to setting up the pub to make certain that it met with his approval I will withdraw my statement, but I’m aware of no such arrangement.
I think that walking into a public environment like this with too many personal expectations isn’t very good mind-set for healthy social interaction. When I’m saying that the board is for everyone, I’m suggesting that we try to have an open mind and allow others to be who they are rather than who we expect them to be.
I think he might have employed better manners in getting his message across if that the gist. The errant attacks he made on some people were uncalled for and wouldn’t be considered very polite in any setting. I’m not just talking about his comments about me, (being the only one singled out,) but the others as well.
Personally, I like Jack and enjoy it when he comes around to our session. When he does turn up there he always makes a point of telling me how great my posts are and how I should “keep em coming.” He gives me a thumbs-up and says, “good work” as he’s leaving. I’m confused now.
Talk about blowing it out of proportion. You are confusing who the board is for, and how those who are part of the board should behave. Murph did not say the board was only for him. He said that he feels for everyone who is here, certain posts are good and others are less good if there is too many of them.
About Jack complaining that his personal expectations aren’t met: What else should one complain about? We are all here with expectations and it is perfectly permissible and wholesome to discuss them.
Jack’s thread was to make people think about what they are posting and I believe it has stimulated some interesting discussion and thought. The Pub forum reminds me of the chatroom in some ways and for those of you who like the socializing, face to face dialogue etc., come on in to chat. Personally, I have learned more from the chatroom about whistles and flutes and bagpipes etc etc than I can absorb or wade through on the forums. Just a personal quirk of mine I guess. But the great thing is that useless drivel, nonsense and general insanity also does occur there. So if you can’t handle that, best to stay out.
Since I consider myself a “student” and am still learning I don’t have a lot to contribute to the forums as yet. I generally don’t post unless I have something to contribute. However, I do enjoy Jack’s discussions in the chatroom and Eld’s and Walden’s and Alan’s and Ava’s and Karina’s and and MarkB’s and Erik’s and Week’s etc etc etc…and not all of it is music related. It’s just a place for friends who share an interest in the same instruments and music to hang out. Maybe it’s an alternative to consider for some of you. It’s a friendly place and the personal attacks that I see on the forums aren’t generally seen.