Really! I always assumed that a free-range chicken, for example, was supposed to have the run of a yard, and could dance in the sun and peck at beetles in the grass, and that sort of thing. Not that I’d necessarily believe the claims, but to straight-facedly call indoor living “free-range” sounds contradictory to me. What a dupe I’ve been.
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Okay, I’m confused. Chocolate isn’t meat is it? Isn’t it from a tree? Can’t you be a vegetarian and eat chocolate? I know about carob and I don’t know why people eat it, but surely it isn’t because chocolate comes from an animal. Well, except for chocolate milk of course.
Of course chocolate is vegetarian. It comes from a bean, like coffee.
Why some people may sub carob (also a bean,) is because vegetarianism is often practiced as a part of “health-foodism,” and many (especially 70’s era) health foodies excluded chocolate on the basis of caffeine.
Most vegetarians I know embrace chocolate, thought the vegans eat only the dark (non-milk) variety.
What’s wrong with that is that we need animals to produce manure to fertilise the soil and maintain soil structure. In addition there are many millions of hectares of the earth’s surface that are unsuitable for growing arable crops yet which can support grazing animals (many upland areas for example). If all the agricultural land on earth should suddenly become crop-growing to the exclusion of animals we would suffer even greater chemical pollution than we do now.
Well.. no … we could easily continue to enjoy eggs and milk, both harvestable without taking, or unduely taxing the life of the animal, and still have the manure they produce for fertilizer, etc. Not eating meat would not exactly equate to erasing animals from the planet, after all.
Aaaargh! I’m so embarrassed! I thought “dupe” could only be a verb and I am WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! It wasn’t that I thought you were a dope, I thought you shouldn’t say you were a dupe. So please accept my humble apologies!
It’s the milk for me…although I don’t think that I’d eliminate it completely out of my diet even if I were to eliminate meat, I have a bit of an intolerance to milk anyway. So despite my love of it, it might be better to not have it, at least as much.
Anyway, that’s what I meant. I did know that chocolate is vegetarian. I think that I said what I did because of some kind of giant rift in the cosmos.
Well, I just didn’t want you to think there was anything wrong with chocolate! Oh I see, and there is milk in milk chocolate. I guess you don’t like dark chocolate as well. I think I get it now.
I think the article ID10t posted is the kind of science that scares me most. Science does not know what all the components of our food do to us, which elements are good and in what quantities and, most especially, in what combinations. And yet here they go engineering something before they know what it is they need to engineer. Its great that they can do this stuff in the lab, but I would want there to be a whole lot more study in the field of nutrition before they add Franken-meat to the Franken-crops already being foisted upon us.
djm- most of the beef and a lot of the chicken available in groceries today probably would fit your definition of “franken-meat” because of all the added hormones and antibiotics. Even buying “organic” or “free range” isn’t a guarentee that you are avoiding these - unless you can find out exactly what the animals are fed and where that feed comes from.
Quite alright Izz. This can happen. Most likely the rift you mention allowed some sort of hooved cacaodebeest from another dimension to briefly gallop by in your peripheral visual field.
I absolutely agree…my favorite lamb dish is lamb chops (seared on the outside, rare on the inside) in a rosemary-lemon sauce. Fresh rosemary and lamb are a wonderful combination.