So that nickel high D Copeland, that was listed in the used instrument exchange, sold for $355 US…the prices seem to be all over the place in the last cuppla years…any ideas as to why so low? Because it was older/nickel? The lister also sold a Brass C Copeland that went for $500…I just expected that high D to sell a lot higher…good that the market seems to be more resonable…I remember one that sold for $1,250 US in the past…
oops!! I seem to have posted in the wrong forum…I was on the UIE when I posted a new topic…MODS, can you please move it to the whistle forum…thank you!!
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I paid $350 for both a nickel soprano D and a brass soprano C bought together, around a year or so ago, I think. That comes out to 175 a piece. I wish they all sold for that cheap, because I’d like to have more of them. I love the whistles, but I wouldn’t be willing to spend $500 for one. I’m surprised that nobody has attempted to knock them off yet and sell them for a reasonable price.
I assume the one on Ebay didn’t go much higher partially because of chance, and partially because it was dented.
eThingy website is just a crap shoot with bidding all over the place. Shills and all. I would’ve thought the whistles sold higher too.
It would be welcomed if some of these prices would moderate a bit.
That would be darned difficult, IMO. The process Copeland uses is not for your usual basement tinkerer type of whistlemaker. The process employed for drawing the tapered tube is fairly involved. Some have tried. None (that I know) have even come close.
The low F still has a few hours to go.
And the O’Riordan still has no bids.
Feadoggie
awesome deal on those Copelands sirchronique…congrats!!.. Feadoggie, there was one guy, Dale and I did a lot of commenting on it awhile back…both he and I played a low D Copeland knock off made by a one time apprentice of Mr. Copeland…believe it or not, it was even better than the original one that I have…Dale also believed it to be a better player…I’d supply a link but am not that good with a computer…you can prolly look over some older post…from what I remember, it was a good discussion…cheers!
Right. I have a vague recollection of that discussion.
Found what I think you might be referring to. Was it John Bishop who made that whistle? https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/one-of-the-most-interesting-whistles-to-come-through/80728/1 Many other links going back to about 2001 precede that one. It is mentioned that John Bishop may have worked with Copeland as an apprentice of some sort. Jim Rementer, partner/apprentice to Copeland, is the other individual that I would think knows the whole process and required tooling.
But if we are talking about someone starting fresh and from scratch it would likely be a different story. It’s not that no one could reproduce a Copeland style whistle. It is a matter, in my mind, whether someone would be willing to go through the time and expense involved in the discovery process to be able to really do the original Copeland whistle design justice, particularly in the craft of making the tapered bore heavy gauge tubing.
The deal is that I do not think that one could sell enough whistles at a sufficiently high enough price to justify the initial expense of tooling up to make them. It would help if one already had a machine shop or a brass instrument repair business before getting into making that style of whistle.
But judging from the some of the shop photos/videos from new makers being shared here recently I could be wrong entirely.
The Copeland low F went for a bit over $700. Again, less than what I was expecting it might go for.
Thankfully, Michael Copeland is still making a few whistles down the road in Delaware County. And I hope he continues making them.
Feadoggie