New band - Celtic (Christian) folky sound (with whistles)

Yes, 'twas the words that was the cause of the grief Mike…The Whistle playing was nice…with a good tone..
Mmmmmmm the cricket is not to good for us is it :frowning: … all the commentators here are whinging about it.

(Christian) folky sound (with whistles) would be my description. Didn’t really rock my boat, but good performance nonetheless.
Cheers

Thanks. That helps put my mind at rest. It’s a traditional hymn, written in 1863, so I can’t take credit for the syrupy horribleness then.

Personally I’m enjoying the warm-up games where England face a different bunch of amateurs each week. I think it’s good preparation for when the real Australian side arrives. :wink:

Ah, this may be the crux of the issue. A quick Google search of the interwebs reveals that the words were written in 1863, but the author used a German tune that was composed at least a century previous. Ergo, playing an old German tune on the whistle does not make it “celtic”, no matter how well-played. The main focus in this forum happens to be on Irish traditional music; hence the less-than-100% positive comments.

Only it’s not a German tune - it’s a new tune composed by the band. Did you like it?

The main focus in this forum is the whistle, not Irish trad, just the whistle. And if you want to argue about it, please do so in a new thread. :slight_smile:

OK fair enough, I misunderstood your statement about it being a traditional hymn.


I’m sure it’s better than I could compose, but it’s not to my taste.


Sorry, I don’t mean to start an argument or piss on your thread; just trying to offer a logical explanation as to why not everyone here appreciates the classification of your music as “celtic”. As long as your music pleases you, who cares what anyone else thinks anyway?

Peace; out.

I liked it, but wish the instruments got a little more volume in the mix, especially the whistle. :slight_smile:

I doubt you’ll hear Bluegrass Gospel at a Mass. At a Protestant service, yeah.

You’d be surprised at what we use as musicians and congregations here in West Virginia. Even at Catholic Mass.

(I was using Mr. Gumby’s terms when he said, “when you turn on the tellie on Sunday morning and happen to fall into the sunday morning mass.”)

I thought the song had a pastoral sound, I could meditate to that.

I’ve seen mandolin, concertina, and saxophone to name a few, at Mass here in NY. Sadly, the pipe organ collects dust, and the only thing that would surprise me is if the American churches started becoming more traditional.

Ah, got ya.

Well, it’s time for an Irish/Cherokee former Baptist who a long time ago converted to Judaism, to offer his completely unbiased opinion to the mix. I like it, if there were no words. The music was pleasant and well played and I agree totally with the folkiness. Sounds more like a renaissance festival piece to me, if there were no words.

ecohawk

Thanks for that. We’re on Facebook now: https://www.facebook.com/hyldasmusic

Interesting you objected to ‘worship music’ earlier on this thread :

This might sound like “christian worship music” to you, but that label would be equally misleading to people …

while using that term to describe the band’s music on f-book doesn’t seem to trouble you:

Celtic inspired worship music. Folky and rootsy songs of faith, love and life. We are Clare Hunt Mike Clifford Tim Thwaites with guest Joe Thwaites

I didn’t object, I just pointed out that “christian worship music” would mean something very different to most people I know. Hence, “Celtic inspired worship music” with the longer explanation. Anyway, you still haven’t ripped the actual music to shreds yet…

This might sound like “christian worship music” to you,

When you said this, there was more than a bit of a hint of something more than just explaining the term would be confusing to some.

Anyway, you still haven’t ripped the actual music to shreds yet…

Should I? It is what it is. It doesn’t matter what I think if you’re happy with it.

I thought the song was quite beautiful, with the possible exception of the singer. She’s good, but the wrong tonal production for the style of music. A less covered, “big” sound would be preferable – more “natural” – less “produced.”

The music has a squeeze box of some kind, guitar, and whistle. It’s harmonically modal. I’d place it under a more “new age” umbrella. It’s reminiscent of Celtic – but not Celtic.

But I thought it was beautiful. I’d like to have our church group play that song – or stuff like it. It’s sort of “John Michael Talbot-ey.”

For those of you who liked the first track, the album “As the rain hides the stars” is now available for download here:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hyldas

Whistle features on most of the tracks. I played Dixon and Generation whistles - details on request assuming I can remember them! For those who don’t care for Christian words, tracks 7 & 13 are purely instrumental.

If you’re in the UK and would prefer a hard copy, we’ll have CDs available in the New Year, price £12.

Comments welcome!

I liked it Mike. good whistle solo too. I WISH they would play something like this at my church .
I would buy this.
Steve

The tune, particularly the first three bars, is reminiscent of Queen Mary’s Escape from Lochleven Castle, also known as the Arran (two Rs) Boat Song. The original tune incorporates the scotch snap and was linked at thesession.org but the link is now broken. The versions currently listed do not have the scotch snap which, for me, is what gives the tune a distinct Gaelic (in this case Scottish) feel.

Correction: TheSession.org does include versions without equal duration notes but they are written as waltzes, which confused me before my second cup of coffee. The key is to find a recording with the snap played in the desired manner and copy the timing since the written music can only convey the general skeleton of the tune.

eh? which tune?

The tune backing the song here.

https://soundcloud.com/tim-radium88/o-worship-the-lord-by-hyldas

Here is Alasdair Fraser playing Arran Boat Song. They eventually get to the tune proper around 2:00.

My point is simply that your tune sounds a bit like Arran Boat Song and if you want to give it more of a Gaelic feel you could choose to listen to and emulate someone like Fraser if you liked his interpretation. In particular note the use of dotted eighth sixteenth and/or sixteenth dotted eighth note combinations instead of straight eighth notes (6/8 time).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IajKmTBPr6g