I like this diverse, unstructured, all over the map, kind of free-thinking…not knowing where it’ll take you next. It keeps us all sloshed together(as if we need more juice) and kind of equally up to speed on anything (or “nothing”) depending on one’s perspective.
We had a couple of self-appointed cops on the Pipe Forum that tried to control things. It kind of took the fun out of it and drove people apart, IMHO.
This whistle board is quite colorful, has some grey areas, but I like it like it is…lots of personality.
I like the stream of consciousness feel of the board as it is. If this forum were only about information exchange then a more segmented format might be warranted. But we are talking tin whistles here, not world peace and economic progress for third-world nations. There is a lot of feeling and nonsense involved in making music. If we take it TOO seriously we risk losing the spontaneity and fun.
Mike
On 2003-02-05 08:03, burnsbyrne wrote:
There is a lot of feeling and nonsense involved in making music. If we take it TOO seriously we risk losing the spontaneity and fun.
Mike
With so many off topic post there is a chance of loosing the purpose of the board. It might be wise to set up an OT board to help those in our community who like to chat and this way they would not feel that they were imposing upon others looking for information.
I know I do not have the time required to search all the post for information and have stopped paying attention to most post on the whistle forum. There are those who really enjoy the banter on any topic and that should continue. It would be nice however for those not into that to be able to read thru the whistle topic.
If all else fails we could move the whistle post to the ITM board and leave the whistle board for OT.
[ This Message was edited by: Wizzer on 2003-02-05 09:34 ]
On 2003-02-04 19:05, Blackbeer wrote:
I love chaotic!!! I love reading a thread not knowing what it will turn into. I love the knowledge that one can mine in here. My life can be structured out there, not in here please. I prefer to spend MY TIME in here because of the way it is set up. Its loose, friendly, kinda off the cuff. Its a whistlers place. Lets just let it be what it will be.
Tom
Personally, I think the above post says it all. Well Done!!!
Changing the board would not cause a loss in the free flowing feel that it currently has. You get the same effect but it’s easier to keep up with. Also it’s not an “if it aint broke, don’t fix it” issue. It’s an “if it ain’t broke, try to improve it so that everyone, newbies and long-time posters’ alike get the same benefits from the board”.
Considering there are 140 pages of topics in the The Poststructural Whistle Board… Adding a forum for OT’s (ads, etc.) may actually be of service.
Agreed.
There is a wealth of information on this board and it’s a shame that it’s not a little more structured. I don’t think this change would be as big a deal as most are making it out to be. It’s not “re-inventing the wheel”, it’s improving it. Sure there’s only so much you can discuss about the whistle, and maybe it has all been discussed. That could be the reason for all the OT threads. So for the newer members especially it would be nice to be able to avoid all that at first and focus only on learning about the whistle.
Oh well, it seems that I am the minority on this, so to respect the majority and not step on any more tows, I guess I will give it up.
p.s.
Maybe there should be a rule that you have to have 1000 posts before you go trying to change everyone else’s groove
“Sorry” for having an opinion about this. I wasn’t trying to “change everyone else’s groove”, just trying to make it smoother. Everyone has a voice and should use it!
Maybe there should be a rule that you have to have 1000 posts before you go trying to change everyone else’s groove
“Sorry” for having an opinion about this. I wasn’t trying to “change everyone else’s groove”, just trying to make it smoother. Everyone has a voice and should use it!
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Personally, I welcome all opinions, differing or not. It’s through these differences that I learn to think and contemplate outside of my own world. I hope that you continue to make your feelings/thoughts known. Welcome.
Maybe there should be a rule that you have to have 1000 posts before you go trying to change everyone else’s groove
“Sorry” for having an opinion about this. I wasn’t trying to “change everyone else’s groove”, just trying to make it smoother. Everyone has a voice and should use it!
Nothing wrong with having an opinion and airing it. (Oops, I don’t have 1000 posts either.) Just don’t expect to be agreed with. You’ll get used to that in time; we all have to.
I think what you might be missing is that there is a rhythm to life here that a lot of us really like. We’ve found a board we like and want it to continue to have the qualities we like. Being an unfolding ‘shaggy dog’ story is perhaps the central quality. We don’t want efficiency, we don’t care whether the trains run on time, we warn the impatient about threads that are blatantly OT by writing ‘OT’ in the title and there are archives waiting to be searched for those who want to digest the information here systematically. That’s just the way we are. The comments above reflect this. Relax, sit back and have a beer. Enjoy!
On 2003-02-05 10:12, Wombat wrote:
I think what you might be missing is that there is a rhythm to life here that a lot of us really like. We’ve found a board we like and want it to continue to have the qualities we like. Being an unfolding ‘shaggy dog’ story is perhaps the central quality. We don’t want efficiency, we don’t care whether the trains run on time, we warn the impatient about threads that are blatantly OT by writing ‘OT’ in the title and there are archives waiting to be searched for those who want to digest the information here systematically. That’s just the way we are. The comments above reflect this. Relax, sit back and have a beer. Enjoy! >
Wombat has said it best- “relax, sit back and have a beer”-
The fact that people are pretty sceptical about your suggestions is no big surprise; if something works, peoples’ natural conservatism tend to make them prefer the “old” way to another, newer & unknown way.
But this is true not only for us “old-timers” on the chiffboard, but also for you, who are new to the chiffboard, but appearently more experienced with other boards. I believe your post shows your conservatism, ie. you are familiar with other boards and would like to retain that familiarity on the chiffboard.
My advice would be; sit back and relax, try out the board as-is for a while, and after you’ve gained some familiarity with it, if you still feel it needs changing, suggest so. Your ideas certainly have merit - but so do many of the concepts used in this particular board.
My advice would be; sit back and relax, try out the board as-is for a while, and after you’ve gained some familiarity with it, if you still feel it needs changing, suggest so. Your ideas certainly have merit - but so do many of the concepts used in this particular board.
Thank you, and will do!
That’s just the way we are. The comments above reflect this. Relax, sit back and have a beer. Enjoy!
Yeah, I guess I see that. It’s just tough to stay on top of things with the large volume of posts per day here. I was just trying to suggest a way that everyone could get the same advantages out of the board. I was really just throwing this out there to get a feel for what everyone thought. It’s apparent now what the attitude is here. So, I’ll grab that beer and a whistle and enjoy the board how it is. Thanks everyone for the comments. This board, is truly a great resource in any respect.
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[ This Message was edited by: Bala on 2003-02-05 10:34 ]
Keep it like it is. Too much nit picky specialization makes for too much work for the board people and deemphasizes the sense of community we have here.
As a longtime participant and moderator on many boards and mail lists, I think you’ll pretty much find that it’s not a good idea to show up someplace and try to change things immediately, no matter how good your ideas are or are not. I resist change in online spaces that I like bc of what I’ve seen in the past: newcomers show up and want the environment changed in all kinds of ways that are better for them; the moderator agrees with and makes some of the changes (or is just the kind of moderator who does anything people ask); and suddenly people who have been on for a long time find they don’t like the environment so they leave.
The board or list then migrates and becomes something different from what it was – sometimes something so different that the moderator finds herself (or himself) doing a ton of work to support an environment she doesn’t even want to participate in any longer. I’ve seen more than one case where the moderator also leaves, which eventually kills the list.
In general, it’s really best to hang out a while, get a feel for the place, then when people get to know you, mention ideas you have for changing the space. Often, you’ll come to see that things are the way they are for a reason.
When I find myself in times of trouble
The C&F Board comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
On my PC screen in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be
Let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree,
The Chiffboard gives the answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is
Still a chance that they will see
The posters know answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be
Let it be, let it be.
Yeah there will be an answer, let it be.
And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
This time it’s the chatroom, let it be.
I wake up to the sound of whistles,
Dale Wisely comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be
Let it be, let it be.
Bala,
Tery made some good points.
I hope you don’t feel ‘shot down’ by all of this. The way it was presented caused controversy.
Who knows, sometime in the future Rich may say the software running the board has reached it’s limit and another forum needs to be added to share the load.
It wouldn’t suprise me when everyone jumps on the bandwagon singing praises about the new forum.
No emotion, just a way of life.
And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
This time it’s the chatroom, let it be.
I wake up to the sound of whistles,
Dale Wisely comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be
Let it be, let it be.
So am I, as a matter of fact.
