making a "good generation"

OK-- after being dissappointed many times by Generation whistles, I have finally made a “good Generation.” How did I do this you ask? Well let me begin by saying this: in my opinion, Generations don’t sound as good as they used to for the simple reason that they currently are designed DIFFERENTLY than they used to be. I discovered this by watching L.E. McCollough’s video tutorial which shows his old blue/nickle Generation D whistle up close several times. What I realized after looking at this video and then looking down at the newer Generation I was holding is that the head is made differently-- most noticeably, the bump or bulb on the fipple blade was smaller on L.E.'s than mine, plus some other small differences. This got me to thinking. I then took out my best cheap whislte by far, a brass Generation Bb and I noticed that this head was designed like L.E.'s. I then compared this with my other Generation Bb – a nickle one (which I had never really been happy with) and noticed that this Generation has the newer styled head. I must have lucked out when I bought the brass Bb and gotten an old one that had been sitting around a while. I don’t know why I never noticed these differences before.

It then became clear to me that I would never get a much sought-after “good Generation” D unless I got an old style one–and I had no luck on that front. So I went into Plan B. I decided that I would compare other whistle maker’s heads with the head on L.E.'s old Generation (and the head on my great Bb) and see which maker came closest. I decided that the Oak D looked the most like the older style Generation head. Perhaps, not coincidentally, the Oak was also the best sounding cheap whistle I had. However, it didn’t really sound like a Generation-- probably because of the heavy tubing they use. So I took off the Oak head and put it on a spare nickle Feadog body I had laying around. Instantly, it improved and sounded more “Generationy”. I happily played this whistle for a long time, but it was still not %100 what I wanted. I don’t know why this took me so long to try, but I finally just put the Oak head on a brass Generation body and WHAMMO-- there it was! The sound of a “good Generation.” I am now completely happy with this whistle. and, out of all my D whistles (Copeland, Burke, Thin Weasel, Rose, Sindt) it is my favorite and easiest to play.

I thus heartily recommend that, instead of wasting money ordering Generation after Generation trying to find a good one, you just make one like I did!

Tres
Atlanta, GA

interesting, can you post a picture of a new and old generation head?

Interesting idea, Tres. I’d try it, but I’m afraid to put an Oak fipple any more. They burn my lips.

Put the oak fipple in warm water and detergent overnight. I have no trouble with my Oak fipples now.

Okay, I just now put an Oak fipple on a nickel Gen (a perfect fit, by the way). As expected, it plays very much like an Oak. However, the tone is phenomenal! Thanks for the suggestion.

Tres,if you took a dozen old gens and lined them up you would be lucky if two were good.If you took a dozen new ones you would have at least six good fipples and ten good barrels. :slight_smile: Mike

I have noticed the difference - however I am lucky enough to have been playing long enough to have more or less a complete set of old brass generations.
Incidently, while driving past Oswestry (where gens are made, apparently) the other day I noticed that about a mile from the town is a village called Overton. Coincidence?
Jo.

On 2002-11-22 23:33, Ridseard wrote:
Okay, I just now put an Oak fipple on a nickel Gen (a perfect fit, by the way

Interesting, the Oak head won’t fit by a mile on any of my gen bodies.

I don’t think there’s a huge difference between them, there’s some but nothing really significant to my ear.

More worrying was the gen head on the Sindt body whch WAS a considerable improvement from the Sindt head.

Uh oh, we’re getting into the relm of “franken-whistles” now…