Low G Sindt Whistle?

I’ve got all the Sindt whistles now, from the D down to the A, but don’t see anything lower mentioned anywhere on the web. Does anyone know why John stopped with the low A? What would happen if you made a low G brass tube to fit the A mouth piece (the A will pull out to a G#, but that’s all)? I suppose it needs to be bigger for more air? There’s 3 different sizes of Sindt mouth pieces from D down to the low A. I wonder if John ever thought of making a low D whistle.

BTW, the D Sindt mouth piece fits my old Generation D, and C Sindt mouth piece fits the old Gen C. I had to sand the Gens down slightly for a looser fit (both were way too tight!). My old red Generation mouth pieces finally cracked and broke beyond repair. So now, I have two bodies each for the D and C! :slight_smile:

Some years back I asked if he had considered making an A/G set. He indicated that he had not really thought about anything more than he was currently making. He was busy enough without expanding his line. His “gut feeling” was that a G tube would have to be a bit larger in diameter than the A and he just didn’t have the time or inclination at that point to do the necessary experimentation.

In the intervening years he seems to have only gotten busier so I wouldn’t hold your breath…

Best wishes.

Steve

My Overton low G is HUGE compared to the Sindt A. I wonder if that large of a tube for low G is really necessary. Volume? Proximity of the finger holes to each other?

The Löfgren low G is smaller diameter than Overton/Goldie, both sound terrific but i can’t imagine a regular A-diameter tube sounding very good stretched down to G..

The same mouth piece fits the B, Bb, and A bodies, a smaller mouth piece fits the C and C#, and a smaller yet for the D. A low G mouth piece would probably need to be a little bigger alright, the tube as well, but it would be interesting to see how it sounds with an A mouth piece on a G body. Pulled out to a G# it sounds solid, up and down the scale.

FYI, Sindt also makes a high Eb if you want a complete set. I’ve got all of them.

Like Steve said, my conversations with John back in 2011 ended up with him stating emphatically that it would need a bigger tube diameter and head redesign and he wasn’t ready to go there.

Never being one to take no for an answer, I experimented. I’ve created several new tubes for my Sindt’s, all of which worked just fine, as follows; that perfect cross fingered Cnat (works great but not worth it since I learned to half-hole), high Eb (love it), high d+ ( really love it), and a C tube for my B head (really bold). So I set out to create a G tube for my A. After 3 tries, I gave up. The tube absolutely needs to be bigger if you want to not modify the head and I’m not going there. The bottom two notes are unstable and almost silent and it wants to keep changing octaves at far too low a breath pressure. All of them had really nice second octaves but a very disappointing first octave.

It was not even in the ballpark with Jerry Freeman’s alto G model that he appears to have built with a new tube on a tweaked Gen head. When compared to Jerry’s Alto A/Bb head, this provides additional proof to me that the Sindt head would need to be redesigned or tweaked to accommodate an alto G tube.

I also spent some time studying a Goldie standard alto G compared to a Goldie small bore alto G and it’s easy to see that the head is significantly different as well as the tube diameter/length.

So if someone else gets a Sindt alto G right, I’m first in line as a customer.

ecohawk

Thanks ecohawk. That’s what I was looking for. I’ll take your word for it…and it makes perfect sense.