Anyone know of any good praise and worship music available for high D whistles?
I have found some on Whistle and Squeak and was wondering if there were any other sites.
The Praise Whistlers site and message board is probably the place to look for leads:
In my experience contemporary Christian music is best learned by ear, like Irish music… not because it’s particularly intricate, but because it’s simple enough melodies, while (I at least find that) syncopated rhythms are learned better by ear, if you’re going to be playing simple tunes anyway. I don’t know where to find free lead sheets, tho. Back when I was on my church worship team I used CCLI, but of course my pastor had a paid account with them. I’m sure you can find something on the internet. If it’s old hymns you want, pfft, there’s plenty of sheet music for free on the net. cyberhymnal.net is good if you have NWC (which is free).
There’s several sites with free lead sheets - if you know what song you want, just google it and you will find it (sometimes though, when printed out the chords don’t line up where they should).
If you (or your church/praise and worship team) will spend the money for CCLI, it’s worth it, IMHO, for all that you get. I suppose it really depends how much you would use it though.
What is CCLI? ![]()
CCLI= Christian Copyright Licensing International
By paying a single annual fee (based on church size) to CCLI your church has copyright permission for over 200,000 Christian songs for congregational use. Almost any praise and worship song is covered under CCLI. This way churches can legally copy songs/lyrics/etc, without the nightmare of having to get permission from the copyright holders themselves.
CCLI offers some services for additional fees, that provide lead sheets, vocal/hymn sheets, chord sheets, lyrics download, and song samples, videos, and lots of other stuff.
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Join the choir/folk group/praise team at your church or just steal a songbook, hymnal, or missalette and practice at home.
I agree that if a church can afford it, CCLI is great. Especially if you get the lead sheets/chord sheets. (my own opinions on Christian music copyrights set aside… heh heh heh)
Well, there’s some controversy over whether anyone really needs CCLI. It depends if a church service would be classed legally as a public performance. Personally, I doubt that it would, but I don’t think it’s been tested in a court of law. Oh, and I’m no expert and this advice comes with the usual disclaimer!
Copyrights? On songs you sing in church, praising god? Wow. I thought only scientologists do things like that.
( did not want to offend anyone, sorry if did )
Things may be different under UK law. I am a praise worship leader at a local church here in th US. I play music off the contemporary Christian music charts every Sunday. If I stuck to music in the public domain many of our attendees would find another place to worship.. We do subscribe to CCLI and CVLI (for videos) as well. Our national church has a large portion of its website dedicated to the intracacies of copyright licensing. A church is not considered part of the “fair use” interpretation of the law here in the states. They are reponsible under all copyright laws and the US courts have been active and some cases which have received national media attention here in the US.
Feadoggie
Thanks for that, Feadoggie. Yeah, if you’re playing contemporary stuff, then CCLI is probably the way to go, but it bugs me that the same licence pretends to cover much older songs and hymns like “Amazing Grace”.
Hmmm, I don’t think CCLI claims to do that…IIRC, when you look up a public domain song/hymn in CCLI’s song select, it tells you it’s public domain. I could be mistaken, because it’s been a few years since I used song select.
But it’s also surprising some of the older, more traditional hymns that you’d THINK were under public domain are not. Even though the original composers/writers are dead, someone still holds a copyright on them.
A big part of CCLI is that it allows a church to publish lyrics in the bulletin and on overhead projection. You don’t need it if you own a copy of the music for each person in the service, so churches that only use hymnals are often safe. CCLI also allows us to make copies of certain music for the choir and musicians. There’s another company that churches can use, but CCLI has the largest selection of music. Basically, CCLI is there to help protect churches from getting in legal trouble related to copying and reprinting music, some pictures, and some videos depending on the license a church purchases.
Actually no, what they copyright are specific artists’ renditions/arrangements/whatever of the hymns. The hymn texts are public domain, if they’re old enough to be public domain in teh first place (Amazing Grace eg).
A big part of CCLI is that it allows a church to publish lyrics in the bulletin and on overhead projection. You don’t need it if you own a copy of the music for each person in the service, so churches that only use hymnals are often safe. CCLI also allows us to make copies of certain music for the choir and musicians. There’s another company that churches can use, but CCLI has the largest selection of music. Basically, CCLI is there to help protect churches from getting in legal trouble related to copying and reprinting music, some pictures, and some videos depending on the license a church purchases.
I don’t remember the details, but I’m pretty sure this is correct. AFAIK you can legally perform music at church, but printing music etc is trickier… I dunno. Like I implied I think the whole issue is pretty silly, and very unchristian.
TheSpoonMan, I don’t understand why you think it’s “silly” and “unchristian”. Should churches be above the law, copyright-wise, because they are churches? Or should Christian artists not give themselves any copyright protection because they are Christian? Or am I not understanding something? If churches should still follow the law (which I think they should) and if Christian artists are as deserving of protection as any other (which I think they are) I think CCLI is a great compromise that makes it feasible for churches to be legal, giving due credit to the artists, without a lot of hassle or expense.
ok - here’s an example of sillyness. The church I attend is switching from taping services using cassette tapes to CDs and online. They used to record the whole service including the singing, so that folk who can’t make it to the services can feel part of the worship. We’ve (the members) been told (by the leadership) that if we switch to CDs we can no longer record the music/singing cos that would be a breach of copyright, which I suppose is technically true, but no one is going to use the rough quality live recording as a replacement for buying praise and worship CDs. And I know that there’s probably no reason why this is coming up with switching from tapes to CDs, but as I said it illustrates the sillyness and mistique perpetuated by the CCLI.
Also it bugs me that the music book we used has “Photocopying music is illegal” splashed across the bottom of each page, which is simplistic and untrue.
But it’s not about due credit, is it? It’s about money. Otherwise, why would CCLI require a sliding scale of payments based on church membership? A simple, accessible database of artist credits would do.
Wouldn’t it be easy enough for artists to give themselves something like Creative Commons protection for all commercial uses, while allowing not-for-profit use of their materials for worship, without the implicit threat of shaking down churches and their congregations? The same sorts of issues arise in folk tradition as well. But that’s taking this into Procto territory, and I’ll move it if necessary. As a naïve non-churchgoer, I have no particular axe to grind about this. Maybe I’m just surprised that something like CCLI even exists.
Amen, brother!