Let's GO, Geek O! 2 problems with Microsoft Word

One of my office computers has Word 2000 (for Windows). No, I’m not going to get a Mac.

2 issues:

When I use the File drop down menu, then the “Open” command to pull up a document, including one I’ve created with this very computer and with Word, the document comes up with all formatting info lost.

Weirdly, if, instead of using the drop down menu and the open command I find the same document with Explorer and CLICK on the document to open it…it opens with the formatting info INTACT.

How weird is that?

Does anyone know of a way to get Word to always prompt for a password when saving a document?

Thanks!

Dale

:imp: You could’ve at least given us the pleasure of making the suggestion; it makes us feel so superior. :smiley:

Mac owners are superior. We will offer no resistance when they take over the world. Resistance we know to be futile.

Check the file format you are using to open it.



The password thing is a protection option.

Um, search the help file for protection, or:
got to the drop down menu “Tools”, look for “Protect Document”

It’s yours from there.

Hey, I am not gonna get all superior on ya, because they are, after all, just tools. It’s just that MS has Bill’s smudgy fingerprints all over their software and OS…with known “issues.”

Speaking of computers (he says, derailing the thread), for those of you who are Mac and Adobe users: if you have ever used any of the recent tutorials that are in 2 to 3 minute segments, you may be familiar with a British man’s voice that gives the lessons.

We had an InDesign training at my job last week and it was none other than he, Steve Holmes, the voice of Adobe tutorials giving us instruction in person.

Very cool.

Damn, I thought you were going to say that it was Martin Milner.

Tom

Ha! Well I did ask him why they chose a Brit but he didn’t know for sure. He is a true expert in all Adobe software, though. I couldn’t believe the stuff he knew, and, best of all to us newspaper types, his art degree was specifically in typography and design, more than general art. He really knew his ligatures!

I have never seen that happen and have not been able to reproduce the problem. What formatting, specifically, gets corrupt? Indents? Bullets? Headings? Are you using any special templates?

To password protect the document go to the Tools | menu and select “Protect Document…”
A dialog will open allowing you enter a password.

There is a fix which doesn’t involve getting a Mac or changing your OS to Linux.

It does, however, require a baseball bat. Cures all known Windows issues.

I need a little more info… what font does it think it’s in? Are you just missing the page edges (layout view)?

If you’re looking at it in an unfamiliar “view” (normal, Web, or outline), it might appear to have lost formatting. If it’s REALLY lost formatting (as in an ASCII text file), it usually opens in Courier. I had a look at Tools/Options and didn’t see any “open as” default.

I DID find a place to set password options for the current document, but (as noted above) you may find the same setting easier under Tools/Protect Document.


The above is just a reply to justify placing this note here: Weekenders! Brother! I work in InDesign all the time. Love fonts, love typography, love doing layout–and yell at people for underlining the < sign to try to get “less than or equal to” instead of finding the correct d**n symbol.

M

Wow, it’s wierd to start reading a thread in an idle moment and find oneself mentioned!

Maybe English accents in America are considered trustworthy? In the UK many financial advertisements use Scottish actors and actresses, because they are considered financially canny, and the accent is supposed to convey this.

A notable exception to the rule is Howard the Brummie, the spokesman for Halifax, whose midland accent is friendly and reassuring. For those outside the UK, his accent sounds a bit like Mr Weasley in the Harry Potter films.

Thanks. Regarding the password thing, I was looking for something a bit more streamlined that would password protect all my documents. I located a program called Cryptainer which is going to do the trick for me.

I don’t know what to make of the formatting problem. It doesn’t actually lose the formatting—as I said, the weirdness of the problem is that formatting appears lost when I open the file my using the menu commands, but all is well if I click on the file icon to open it. This makes no sense to me whatever.

It appears to lose virtually all formatting, bold, italics, font size. Tables go away. It’s way odd.

Dale, try going up to the “View” menu in Word and see which view is selected when you open the file from within Word (the choices in Word 2000 should be normal, print layout, and outline). If Outline view is selected, your formatting will be off, at least within the main body of the text. Change it to “print layout” or “normal” and everything should be fine.

Not sure if that’s behind the problem you describe, but it sounds like the document itself is fine; it’s just the way you’re viewing it in Word.

-Brad

Does anyone there know how to take an Access report and remove html tags and all content within them? We have large schedules of events generated from Access that include the relevant info plus all the html stuff.

We are having a heck of a time because in making transition over to InDesign, we have lost Pagemaker’s filter preference which removed them. We have to do it in accursed Word.

Word is indeed accursed, but Access reports even more so, and I’ve never been able to get it to make me a report I’m willing to take out in public.

Were it my task to sort out, I’d do a mail merge in Word (catalog style usually does it) and link it to the relevant Access table(s). You can apply whatever formatting you like in Word, which as you and I both know, imports into InDesign in a fairly well-behaved and predictable way.

M

Thanks Marg. It’s funny because the outdated and unappreciated by most Pagemaker had a filter preferences box that if marked during Place, erased them magically yet saved all the formatting (returns, bolds, etc)…

Back to password protection–a quick web search made me think that password-protecting within Word 2000 is not as secure as one might hope and the documents may still be opened by other applications (web browsers, for example).

When I had some work being done in the house, I password protected my screen saver. If my computer is rebooted, you also have to enter a password to start it up. (Depending on your operating system, it may still be possible for a “guest” to locate your secure files.)

So if you’ve found a third-party piece of software that works for you, then hang onto it.

M

I loved Pagemaker, especially since before that I was working entirely in code (pre-WYSIWYG days). I didn’t use or had not been aware of the filtering capabilities, but InDesign’s ability to appropriate Styles and apply its own formatting to them may be as useful.

I’m in InDesign 2.0 right now and find myself wishing I had a “paste as unformatted text” option. I end up pasting some corrections into Notepad and then copying that and pasting it into InDesign. It will lose any italics or other formatting, but I’m not often forced to do it.

This usually happens when the writer of the Word document overrides native styles. Especially evil are the writers who do everything in “Normal,” change the font on everything, and hand-code the headlines. :roll:

M

Looks like we have some similar problems. We are changing to InDesign because we have to for producing electronic pages and using more color in our newspaper. Even after having the leading expert on InDesign, Steve Holmes, here for our training, we came up with a short but important list of things ID won’t do. Hopefully, his feedback will reach them.

Well, m’lad, I have a book for you.

(continuing thread hijacking)

The Truth by Terry Pratchett

Pratchett, at least until J.K. Rowling came along, was the “most shoplifted author” in Great Britain. This fantasy is about a sort of accidental newspaper. Go ahead and read the description.

It rang so true from my own newspaper days that when he came to this area last September, I trotted my copy down to get an autograph. I told him I had been a typesetter. He said, “Hot type? There aren’t many of us left!” and shook my hand.

M