ID this snake?

Here’s some pine snake pics: http://www.snakesandfrogs.com/scra/snakes/images/flapinejuv1.jpg

Another possibility is the Bull or Gopher snake. I’m still banking on it being some variety of Rat Snake, though.

Is he paper trained?

Oh! Did you see that rattler video with the talk show host? I’ll have to find it.

Die. Die snake die.
Kill.

Kill it.

Wonder, then, about what kind of dead snake it is. After it is dead. O die snake.

Snakes make me uncomfortable.

I always wonder why snakes make so many people uncomfortable. I wonder if it’s not related to primordial memories (or “collective consciousness” in Jung’s terms) of the Garden of Eden.

I mean, it’s basically just a turtle without a shell or legs who eats rats. I never met a person who’s afraid of turtles.

I have a friend who is afraid of Alligator Turtles, I think he’s crazy!

j/k :smiley:

Them things run wild around here and they can bite your fingers clean off!

I found this description of KY snakes. I think it’s it…

http://www.kentuckysnakes.org/snake_details.cfm?snake_number=33&option=backyard_snakes

It’s so beautiful. But I’m going to let it go in the morning.

Nice looking snake.

Eden? Ya… I’m sure that is it.

Oh, and here is a turtle to fear.


It really is better off in the wild.

As far as turtles go, I had a dog who was scared stiff of box turtles. That’s right…ordinary, harmless little box turtles. We used to get them in our yard in North Carolina, and he would totally freak out. It got to where, if he were trying to get into the garbage or something like that, all we’d have to do is say “Cedar, there might be a turtle in there” and he’d never go near it again! :laughing:

Fear of snakes, spiders and rodents are among the most common human phobias. My guess is that it’s in our genes…some kind of self-preservation code that’s never really died out. For myself, I’m not at all bothered by snakes (I find them fascinating) or rodents (I think they’re cute!), but spiders make me break out in a cold sweat.

Our mailman in NC was terrified of snakes. We got our mail delivered right to our front door after he discovered the green tree snake who lived in the mail box…

Redwolf

I used to know a pit bull who was TERRIFIED of rats. When I introduced my hairless rat to him, he whimpered and ran away, to try to hide under the couch. Every time you brought the little rat near him, he became extremely anxious and cried. It’s so strange. The dog was literally a hundred or more times as large as the rat.

It’s so beautiful! What I meant was that people generally don’t have a phobia of all turtles because a few of them are dangerous. The same isn’t true for snakes. All snakes are hated deeply by a great number of people, even though most of them are harmless.

I was out walking Wiley a few weeks ago, and came across someone walking a huge red doberman. The dog caught sight of us and immediately started cowering behind his person. The person apologized by saying “I’m sorry…he’s afraid of dogs”! :laughing:

Redwolf

P.S. btw, for those who may not know, Wiley is a miniature poodle!

LOL! Dogs are said to be so intelligent, but sometimes you know they act just so stupid! :laughing:

Turtles don’t have hypodermic fangs.

Most people would rather be wrong than dead.

I’m not sure if a fear of snakes is actually instinctual.

I don’t believe it is in humans. That is purely a guess. I haven’t looked at any research.

I know that dogs require training to avoid them.

My boss just lost a beautiful samoyed to a diamond back last month.

Quite sad really. He roamed the office and was quite fun to have around.

I’m not sure about the instinctual part as I’m completely unafraid of snakes (used to catch them bare-handed as a child…well, as an adult too, LOL.) But I have to wonder if at some level it isn’t inherited…

(OK, now we get into the nature-nurture debate…)

My MIL is absolutely terrified of snakes, and my husband jumps half out of his skin if he stumbles across one unexpectedly. MIL was working full time and DH was working nights/sleeping days from the time our son was brought home from the hospital to the time he was in school, and I know that at no point did they run across a snake in the boy’s presence in all that time. AND YET, when DS was 2 he spied a large rubber snake at the store–and loudly warned me "Momma, a 'nake, a 'NAKE–IS GONNA GET ‘OO!!! (‘it’s going to get you!!!’). Even after I showed him it was just a toy, he was unnerved by it and told me “Wet’s get outta hewe!” (let’s get out of here!’).

It was such a sudden and definite reaction to a specific object that I had to wonder about inherited fears after that.

I seem to come across spotted turtles mostly. I came across one in the middle of the road once. Good Samaritan, I jumped out of the car and went to lift him off the road before someone killed him. This is where I learned of turtles’ amazing ability to pee in any direction (I jumped in time, but got quite a shock that, even contracted into its’ shell, it could aim 90° at me and make a good effort).

djm

Holy SHIT! When I was a kid, a friend of mine found a snapping turtle in his back yard (nothing like this one). This one probably couldn’t have taken off more than 2 or 3 fingers at a time. His father got rid of the thing by putting a 1" galvanized iron pipe in front of its mouth. It bit, at which point his father just lifted it and carried it back out into the swamp. It was the most bizarre thing, seeing a turtle hanging horizontally by its mouth from a piece of pipe.

My mother in law had a creek with ducks in it. At one point a snapping turtle decided it wanted to live in the creek for a couple of days. It snapped off all of the ducks’ feet. They all survived the feet being snapped off, but couldn’t swim worth a damn after that, and couldn’t walk at all.

It’s fine…just don’t expect me to ever speak to you again!!

:wink:

My thinking it might be a copperhead was based purely on it’s colouring. The first picture didn’t show the head very well, but I admit that I didn’t look at it as well as I should have. My 14 year old son happened in as I was responding and told me flat out that it wasn’t a copperhead because it didn’t look like a venomous snake at all, and instinctively I knew it really wasn’t, I just hate snakes in a big way and think that every one I see in my yard (or apparently on the internet :wink: ) must be venomous. When you said Cornsnake, that actually made much more sense to me.

So you weren’t really being a know-it-all…I was just just being an Ophidiophobian :laughing:

Dale, you sound just like my wife! Only person I’ve ever seen that hates snakes worse than my dad. My dad, who will stop the truck and back up on the highway to run over a snake he missed on the first pass.

I personally have nothing against snakes. We get garter snakes in Lake Wilson all the time. Bull snakes are pretty cool. I don’t even mind rattle snakes, as long as they aren’t close.

Rattlesnake, by the way, is delicious. Tastes almost nothing like chicken.

Tom

I concur with the latter statement, while disagreeing with the former.