I’m looking for something that I suspect might not exist, even though it seems to me as if it would be useful. I want to be able to operate a series of drones, that is, with a choice of notes, although it doesn’t have to be a particularly wide choice, with my feet, so that I can have them playing while I’m playing either flute or fiddle. I’m looking for this for performance purposes, so it would have to work reasonably well.
I though that maybe there might be some sort of harmonium, with a pedal for the air and a sort of organ foot keyboard for the notes. Is such a thing available? does anyone know?
By the way, I’m not stuck on the idea of this thing, whatever it is, being a harmonium - anything that could produce drone notes through being operated by the feet would do, although I would prefer if it was not electronic.
Despite your preference that it not be electronic, I think a bass pedal board might still be your best bet for simplicity, although I get why you wouldn’t want to go there. On the opposite end, you could build a busy, fantastical Steampunk contraption, complete with ornate brasswork, a big jolly red bellows, and mice in running wheels. Transport might be an issue, though…
Actually, that sounds like a very good idea. They might have to build something totally new, but if anyone could be up to it, it would probably be them.
A shruti box with a foot pedal is the first thing I thought of. With just one, you’d have to think of it as a piper’s drone, staying within just a couple of keys/modes for tunes. I don’t know if there are multi-note versions of this kind of thing, but if there are, I’m sure we’ll hear about it shortly.
A midi pedal (or full organ-type midi pedals) hooked up to a synth/sampler would give you far more flexibility. But now you’re dragging around a lot of gear, plus a need for a PA or small “acoustic” amp. The shruti drone is an attractive idea, because you’re still remaining in the realm of acoustic instruments.
A cautionary note about this kind of thing:
At one point when I was playing in a duo on mandolin with a guitar player, I briefly fooled around with foot percussion with a “Porchboard Bass” plugged into the PA. This gadget is a wooden bar with a pickup, and EQ’d to take out all but the low thump. We were looking for something to add a little interest in the set, without having to hire another player in the group (cheapskates, us!). I’ve seen a few people use this kind of thing. One time was at the tail end set of a Solas performance, where the band was rocking and it added a bit of low-end “oomph” to the sound. In this case, I think it was one of the electronic floor pedals you can get that do something similar.
The main problem I ran into, is that once you introduce this kind of effect, the audience gets used to it and expects it on all your remaining material. It’s not easy to just climb back off it and stop, without it sounding like a band member walked offstage. Probably why it was only used at the last set or two of that Solas concert. This is one reason I stopped using the amplified foot tap thingie – it was too hard to integrate in our sets without making it a constant presence, and it just didn’t work for everything.
Interesting idea, I wish you luck.
A bit of googling and you can find a craftsperson who can make your dream a reality.
I just googled “homemade wooden organ” and then clicked this picture of a homemade foot powered keyboard.
It’s not what you’re looking for, but I found it inspiring for this type of endeavor.
You might simply hook up a melodica with a foot bellows (adapted from uillean pipes).
Glue tabs onto the melodica keys to enlarge them, and attach a “pointer” to my shoe, to press the keys with.
Or hack into an accordion and remove the bellows, and hook the foot pump up to the intake hole of the accordion, and adapt the keyboard as above.
I’ve also seen a device attach to a flute called a “cheater”, which blows air over the embouchure, so a fully keyed flute, like a boehm, could be modified to be operated by the feet, and powered by a bellows. This would give you a flute sound, rather than a reed, and allow you to play the flute with your foot. Hmm…
I have the low G shrutibox that was linked above and it is awesome. I have the foot pedal attachment and use it with whistles, mandolin, guitar, when I’m singing - it works with many things. No so easy if you intend to change noted while playing - that’s only if you are using it hand held. It has a great sound.
Don’t know why I didn’t think of these people. I could even go and see them. They’re quite a long drive away from me - probably 5 or 6 hours - but might be worth it.
I like this idea too.
Very useful cautionary note. I will continue to muse on this. I think we’d be OK, because the circumstances are that I’d be playing with a piper, who sometimes has his drones off and sometimes on. The point about getting the foot powered drone is to be able to get a drone one notes other than D.
I think overall the shruti box seems like a very good idea. I’m going to give them a call.
Any other ideas welcome. I really want to go ahead with this. Now … I wonder if I could combine this with one of my other long term fascination - I wonder if one could rig up a theremin to do this (I know that goes against my rule of no electronic instruments, but I’m not totally rigid on this point.)
I’ve been on too many tech sites lately. When I started reading I thought you wanted to operate some remote controlled flying 'copters with your feet while playing.
My first thought was either a shruti box or a Foot Bass. Foot basses were popular at one time with accordion players and during the seventies I used to see them in fleemarkets occasionally, at a price I couldn’t afford at the time (although looking back it wasn’t very high).
I have seen electric foot bass/keyboard like contraptions as well, again during the seventies I saw Richard and Linda Thompson using one, very effectively too.
There are other electronic options as well, I have, for example, seen Andy Irvine use pedals that produce a hum to fill out his sound when playing solo.
Just did a quick search and yeah, it looks like EDM and “ambient guitar” styles have made a market for drone pedals. I had no idea this stuff was out there. It’s been a long time since I paid attention to electric guitar FX.
Among several drone pedals I skimmed through on a quick search, that sounded the most like a set of pipe drones on some of the less extreme settings. It’s an independent sound source, not an inline effect that requires an instrument input. Too fussy to adjust during a performance, but you could get two or three pedals and tune each one to a different fundamental pitch for playing in different keys/modes. Then run 'em through a switch box, put it all on a pedal board and you’re set.
Since you’re playing with a piper, another cheap, dirt-simple idea would be to record the drone from your piper, then run it through an audio editor to change the pitch. Output audio files at the pitches you want, then play that as a loop through the PA.
Me, I’d still go for a shruti box, for the “authentic acoustic” vibe and looks. Something else I discovered back when I was fooling around with a looper, was that an audience likes to see what’s producing the sounds. “Hidden” effects like loops or pre-recorded sounds don’t go over as well as when the audience sees you working an instrument to produce the sounds. With a shruti box, they can see what’s happening.
Interesting point. I’d agree with that. At a pop concert many years ago, my companion was convinced the audible string accompaniment was synthesized, until the back curtain rose to reveal a full chamber orchestra.
I thought a shruti couldn’t be “played” like a harmonium, i.e. you have to adjust the key by moving a small lever, rather than pressing keys?
A harmonium might be easier to operate, if you could somehow enlarge the key surface. An idea for how to do this could come from looking at african marimbas, which have a large tab for a relatively small key.
On the other hand, a similar idea might be used to enlarge the levers on the shruti. I don’t know which would be easier, but my impression of shruti was much less easy to change notes. (swivelling plates, not keys)
Yes, that does seem to be the case, which would reduce its usefulness for my purposes. However, I’m still thinking of getting one, now that I’ve investigated the subject further. My preference would definitely be to get one where I could change the note, and the reason for that is to be able to play drones that go well in sets where the last tune is, to give just one example, in A major/A minor. A D drone just doesn’t go. Another set has the last tune in G minor, and that one sounds a lot better with a G drone than a D drone. So, the shruti box would still be useful, because I can set the notes as appropriate for the last tune in the set, and not worry so much about earlier tunes in the set. Another possibility that has occurred to me is to buy two shruti boxes, and set them differently so that I can change between tunes in a set.
I’ve had a good look at this. The foot bass looks excellent. It would be great to have, and I could certainly use it. I think I’m going to resist though, as it looks to me as if its primary purpose is to play a bass line, and it wouldn’t really produce a steady drone, because it doesn’t have the kind of ‘air reservoir’ to produce a steady drone that the shruti box does. Mind you, I like the idea of being able to play a bass line!
Yes, I am considering getting a set of Taurus Moog bass pedals. That would work.
Overall, though, the more I look at it, despite the limitations of not being able, easily, to change the drone note, I am leaning towards the shruti box. This has quite a lot to do with the look of it, and how I think it would look in performance.
One more thought on the shruti box idea. With a foot pedal pumping the bellows, you’ll need to develop a rhythm with your foot that isn’t like tapping to a tune. More like the steady elbow action of the bellows on smallpipes or uilleann pipes. The rhythm will be what the box wants for a smooth action back and forth, not necessarily in sync with the tune. That will take practice, I think.
A friend of mine plays GHB and smallpipes. He modified his smallpipes to be mouth-blown, because he just couldn’t get used to that constant arm action at a different pace than the tune rhythm.
Anyway, I still think a shruti box (or two) is a great idea for this. Just something to consider.
Right. That’s it. Shruti box ordered. Delivery should be late October. I’ll see how I get on with it, and maybe buy a second so that I can change drones without assistance. However, I am also planning to train certain other halves to leap on stage and hurriedly move levers. Deb says I’ll need to make sure I have a box of treats handy for the training.