Flat Flutini

Whistle
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I’ve just been trying Flutini for the first time on 17 whistles (9 Ds, 5Cs, 2 Bbs and 1 A) and for me all notes on all whistles display as playing flat. I can shorten a whistle and bring the center line of the Flutini display more towards the middle of the bar graphs, but now the whistles are basically sharp (when compared to a regular tuner).

My first thought was that I don’t blow with enough gusto, however, if that were the case then the Blackbirds I have should come out fine, but they display flat as well.

Any insights?

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Argh tunings kill my brain!

Just inotation or equal temperament?

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If you run a software tuner, e.g. the shaku tuner. on the same computer, what do you see?

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Quote: Just inotation or equal temperament?

I believe they are all Equal.


I downloaded the Shaku tuner and tried again. With my D Blackbird the Shaku indicated that I’m about 40 cents flat or 20 Hz below 880 for the “A” note while my other software tuner (simply called “Audio Tuner”) running at the same time shows me right at 880 for “A”. Very strange indeed. :boggle:

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Do you have an A tuning fork or other reliable external reference standard (i.e. independent of your computer) you can use to get a baseline?

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No tuning fork, but I do have a little Korg CA-1 tuner that I had originally used to determine that Flutini was displaying flat on my PC.

BTW - PC is a Dell, one year old this month, running Windows 7.

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in the tuner, what do you get for Options/Check sound card?

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Are you on a motorbike by any chance?

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Assuming the “Options/Check sound card” is for Shaku, since I don’t find this check for Flutini, Shaku gives me “The sound for calibration seems not to be detected. Go to the Recording Control from the menu and change the input source. Then re-check the sound card.”

I had seen this earlier but had thought the above message was for an internal frequency calibration, but it calibrates from my external speaker which was turned off through to the external microphone - that’s what I get for not reading the operating instructions. Thanks Denny.

It now calibrates to 440Hz correctly.

I’ll do some more comparisons.

Update: The Shaku and Audio Tuner now indicate the same frequency. As for Flutini it would appear that I simply don’t blow strong enough. That may well be the hazard of being a lone whistle player in front of a PC.

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Just to confirm the above, would someone mind playing a D Blackbird into Flutini to see what they get.

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Blackbird D into a SE Electronics condenser microphone

Equal temp in settings…

Blackbird D into a SE Electronics condenser microphone

with Just Intonation unticked in options…

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Thanks Technowhistle. It can’t be any more convincing that your images.

After I started learning the tin whistle I noticed that what had been low level Tinnitus got a bit louder. I then sold off a number of my louder whistles and picked up some quieter ones. I practice in what I call “the study”, but being a fairly small room even the quieter whistles can be loud.

This just goes to prove that “I need to get out more” to play.

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Things to try to get Flutini to behave:

Different microphones?
Different options inside flutini?
Different enviroment?
Adjusting the fipple of the blackbird?


Oh, and the blackbird seemed to like having hole #6 o o o o o x covered while playing the C#


As for tinnitus, I don’t know what to suggest except seek advice from a doctor and be sensible when going to loud raves! :party: