Aerosol, obviously. How else would it be “flying”?
I am soooo with you on this.
We recently had a week or so of World Music festival going on here in Chicago. It was a grand adventure trying to make it to all the shows as they were all over town. Quite a few of them were free.
Of all the acts I saw it was only a throat singing rock band from Tuva and an Arab Music influenced band that I didn’t enjoy live.
The folks from Tuva were amplified too loud with a disturbing sound mix. (Later I chatted with some musician friends of mine who’d been there and the first thing they mentioned was how painfull that concert had been.)
All of the members of the Arab Music influenced band played off written music.
For the first 3 songs I sat there trying to put my fingers on what was so wrong about the act. Then the singer announced that the string section had just been hired to play with them the day before.
Perhaps that’s a difference between fiddlers and violinists?
A fiddler would be expected to learn the tune and take it from there
and a violinist would show up and play the music as it was written, never deviating?
I left thinking “why buy the Cd! I’ve just heard all this group has to offer.”
Funny though, on the same bill as that Arab Music influenced band the opening act was a totally awesome band called La Mar Enfortuna. I mention this because a major Chicago newspaper hated the first act (saying something like the singer lost out in a struggle to get in tune) but totally loved the second act that played off a score.
I guess the reporter who wrote the article doesn’t play fiddle.
A violinist would take exception to that assessment.
You speak from personal experience as a violinist?
Everyone here knows that there’s a difference between a technically perfect musician, who hews so rigidly to every element of timing and tempo that the piece can seem robotic, and an artist whose tweaks are subtle, but so important, that they imbue the piece with life and character without deviating from the script in the sense that a fiddler might.
Maybe this is what Congrats is talking about.
As a (former) classical musician, yes. There’s plenty of interpretation involved in playing written music, and to say that a violinist never deviates from the score is less than friendly to people who spend their lives and livelihoods doing exactly that.
My words began with maybe and the sentences ended with question marks, leaving opportunity to give in put.
Congratulations left no question to it.
His statement was a dogmatic “A violinist would take exception to that assessment”.
If he is a fiddler and a violinist perhaps he will explain the difference?
My only personal experience with playing with violinists are the ones who come to a group fiddling class I take because, though they’ve been playing violin for decades, they can’t figure out what they’re doing wrong when they try to play fiddle tunes.
Well, here again my experience is lacking.
One of the major reasons my fiddle teachers teach by ear and go out of their way to teach us tunes that have no written music for the exact way we play it is because they expect us to play the tunes differently each time through.
They’ve explained that when people learn a tune “from the dots” they tend to be glued to the tune being played that way.
What struck me about the string section at that concert was that they sounded like they could have been piped in from a sound track. There was no mixing of their auras with the rest of the musicians on the stage.
Well, the problem is that we’re talking two different kinds of interpretation. The type of interpretation called for with traditional music is entirely different from that of classical music. And a lot of times it’s very hard for a musician who has trained himself to participate in one type of music to forsake that aesthetic altogether in favor of the other. That’s why the “violinists” in your fiddling class are having so much trouble. Music operates largely on a subconscious level, and they’re attempting to overcome years of conditioning.
I apologize if I came across as brash, before, I didn’t intend it. Probably should have used a smiley. 
I phrased this poorly. What I meant was that I was describing a phenomenom which which most Chiffers would be familiar. No smarty pants attitude intended. (emoticon needed )
And you’ll both forgive me if I accidentally pushed some buttons?
I think one of the marvelous things about hearing music played live is the opportunity to hear more than what is limited to a recording where there has been an attempt for perfection by any means possible.
There are some exceptions to this.
I love it when I can recognise particular musicians playing a tune on a recording that I’d never heard them play before.
But I imagine that even then I’m not getting a full example of what they could be presenting of the tune if given indiscriminate opportunity to present it by how they feel about the tune on any given day or how they’re connecting with those around them playing it too.
instead of listing every group that’s on my ipod (like I have one!) I’ll list a few albums that at least at some point I’ve been able to give repeated listenings to.
Crash Test Dummies -God Shuffled His Feet
James-Laid
The Cure- Wish
Billy Talent- 1 -(not the 2nd though)
Milli Vannili- Girl You Know It’s True
John Cooper Clarke- Zip Style Method
L.V. Beethoven- Piano Sonatas
I discovered the Pathetique sonata in 10th grade and my life has been not the same since.
I am not interested in your favourite alBUMs or your canned farts.
I am simply here to bag this topic.
As for music that changed my world?
Well…
Queen
Bowie
Rush
Tull
Copland
Shadowfax
I don’t have a set ‘favorite’.
Some days it’s SonicFlood, some days it’s Danzig
One old cassette I have in my glove compartment that i’ve been playing in the car lately is ‘Public Image 9’ …a couple of songs on there i’m not as crazy about but on the whole a great album.
It was funny when talasiga said he didn’t care what music people liked especially with dubhlinn giving him the ‘thataboy’ in the next post. Funny the first time.