Your colour printer could rat on you!

From the Washington Post:

Sleuths Crack Tracking Code Discovered in Color Printers

By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 19, 2005; D01

It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it isn’t. The pages coming out of your color printer may contain hidden information that could be used to track you down if you ever cross the U.S. government.

Last year, an article in PC World magazine pointed out that printouts from many color laser printers contained yellow dots scattered across the page, viewable only with a special kind of flashlight. The article quoted a senior researcher at Xerox Corp. as saying the dots contain information useful to law-enforcement authorities, a secret digital “license tag” for tracking down criminals.

The content of the coded information was supposed to be a secret, available only to agencies looking for counterfeiters who use color printers.

Now, the secret is out.

Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a San Francisco consumer privacy group, said it had cracked the code used in a widely used line of Xerox printers, an invisible bar code of sorts that contains the serial number of the printer as well as the date and time a document was printed.

With the Xerox printers, the information appears as a pattern of yellow dots, each only a millimeter wide and visible only with a magnifying glass and a blue light.

The EFF said it has identified similar coding on pages printed from nearly every major printer manufacturer, including Hewlett-Packard Co., though its team has so far cracked the codes for only one type of Xerox printer.

The U.S. Secret Service acknowledged yesterday that the markings, which are not visible to the human eye, are there, but it played down the use for invading privacy. Oh Ya (my words)

“It’s strictly a countermeasure to prevent illegal activity specific to counterfeiting,” agency spokesman Eric Zahren said. “It’s to protect our currency and to protect people’s hard-earned money.”

It’s unclear whether the yellow-dot codes have ever been used to make an arrest. And no one would say how long the codes have been in use. But Seth Schoen, the EFF technologist who led the organization’s research, said he had seen the coding on documents produced by printers that were at least 10 years old.

“It seems like someone in the government has managed to have a lot of influence in printing technology,” he said.

Xerox spokesman Bill McKee confirmed the existence of the hidden codes, but he said the company was simply assisting an agency that asked for help. McKee said the program was part of a cooperation with government agencies, competing manufacturers and a “consortium of banks,” but would not provide further details. HP said in a statement that it is involved in anti-counterfeiting measures and supports the cooperation between the printer industry and those who are working to reduce counterfeiting.

Schoen said that the existence of the encoded information could be a threat to people who live in repressive governments or those who have a legitimate need for privacy. It reminds him, he said, of a program the Soviet Union once had in place to record sample typewriter printouts in hopes of tracking the origins of underground, self-published literature.

“It’s disturbing that something on this scale, with so many privacy implications, happened with such a tiny amount of publicity,” Schoen said.

And it’s not as if the information is encrypted in a highly secure fashion, Schoen said. The EFF spent months collecting samples from printers around the world and then handed them off to an intern, who came back with the results in about a week.

“We were able to break this code very rapidly,” Schoen said.

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

MarkB

So now, the counterfeiters will simply buy untraceable printers by laundering them through several channels, while the rest of us remain trackable.

This is pathetic.

Shame Orwell didn’t live to collect on any bets he might have made.

We’re there, Georgie boy, just arrived a few years late.

This is actually pretty old news in my biz. I do someting similar to any photo that I print off on my thermal dye-sub or photojet printers; I imbed a copyright code in the file that can be read only with digital enhancement. i do this so that none of my clients can make a profit from my work without my consent, its a failsafe that I use just in case a client (or anyone else for that matter) tries to take credit for my work.

Dang! Busted! :frowning:

Ah yes. Tyranny under the guise of protection and security. And so it continues.

I don’t consider that to be quite the same thing. These people are embedding codes in stuff I create, without my knowledge or consent.

Actually, I’m not so sure this is purely Orwellian. It is also Pythonesque in its silliness.

How is it tyrannous? Did you think you had a right to print bogus paper money? Are you printing seditious materials that you are afraid the government will be able to trace back to you?

Privacy is one thing. Overblown hysteria about something that has been around for years and that will probably never have anything to do with you seems to be a popular American passtime, judging from what I see in the news (that’s in general, not just picking on you Fly). People scream at the government to do something about crime, but then complain when the government gets a tool to fight that crime. You either accept the crime, or you accept the increased surveilance. You can’t have it both ways.

djm

Loss of civil liberties does not equal reduction in crime.
I do not use drugs, but I do not like people taking urine samples from me at work either.


I think is time for me to consider donating to the EFF.
http://www.eff.org/

Are there people in your workplace doing a lot of drugs? Do these people cause problems for, or destroy company property? If drug use is a big problem at your company, what is your alternative solution to urine sampling?

djm

It was the military. The people that were in the military that I knew used drugs started using different drugs that they didn’t test for. Like LSD and Ecstasy (instead of pot because it stayed in the system too long). I thought it had potential to make things worse. The army at the time didn’t seem interested in providing prevention, counseling or anything other than a simple, if we catch you, you are in trouble.

To answer your questions directly, in order, No not many used drugs where I was at, No I never heard of any problems, As stated above It didn’t seem like a working solution so It doesn’t matter if their was a different solution. But I only have my expereance, No statistics.

But where does the tracking end? The argument “if you’re not guilty then why do you need privacy” is very bad. I want privacy because nobody needs to know what’ I’m doing unless I decide they do.

Privacy is one thing. Overblown hysteria about something that has been around for years and that will probably

Probably is the keyword here. I wouldn’c all my reaction hyserical.

never have anything to do with you seems to be a popular American passtime, judging from what I see in the news (that’s in general, not just picking on you Fly). People scream at the government to do something about crime, but then complain when the government gets a tool to fight that crime. You either accept the crime, or you accept the increased surveilance. You can’t have it both ways.
djm

You are absolutely right. I however, am not one of those who scream that the “Government” should step in to fix all my problems then complain because they infringe on my rights. In fact I don’t want them to fix my problems. I don’t want it both ways.

A surveilance tool is a double edged sword. It’s bad enough there are cameras at every intersection, every shopping mall etc etc etc. Screw them. I’d rather a shoplifter go free or somebody get away with running a red light then have them spying on me whether I’m up to something or not.

If the people on drugs are causing problems and destroying property,
then fire them for causing problems and destroying property. They
have ratted themselves out. No need for sampling. Drugs don’t even
have to enter the discussion in that case, the guy’s disrupting work for
whatever reason, he’s out.

Agreed, but if the company is unable to catch him, or his co-workers refuse to expose him, then what alternatives does a company have to protect its interests?

The military is, of course, a whole different world, and cannot be addressed in any intellegent way.

If you would rather the shoplifter goes free and it only affects you, that is your choice. Unfortunately, shoplifting causes all prices to rise, and that affects all of us.

I am not pro-intrusive surveilance, but at some point we have to find a way to meet a society’s need to protect itself. There is always a “potential” for misuse of this information, but I am not aware how prevalent such misuse actually is. It cannot be much, or there would have been strong measures to curb it before now. Bush scares me, but if people want to counter his Homeland Security measures they can always vote him out of office.

djm

Good point.

I can’t buy OTC allergy medicine anymore without going through a big mess because of meth producers. I have to first, find a pharmacy that actually carries what I want (with the pharmacies having to keep control of the medication, they aren’t stocking every formula of every brand, and there are only certain things that I can take). Then I have to sign paperwork at the pharmacy (takes time, instead of a quick run in and out). I also have three people (ok, now down to two) taking the same meds - so couldn’t get enough to take care of us all for a week, there’s a limit on the amount you can purchase at one time. Plus, I had to buy for my two sons - while the 18 year old is old enough to fight and die for his country if need be, he’s not old enough to purchase OTC allergy medicine.

How about the NOVEL idea of putting the meth producers in jail for the specified amount of time when found guilty, instead of plea bargaining? No room in the jails? Get rid of all the “non-violent” offenders, or build more jails.

Is MY having to jump through hoops going to stop people from producing meth? I highly doubt it.

This is equally true for lazy people and stupid people and people with
really bad tempers. Drugs are just the easiest to pre-screen for.
Maybe one day we will all have to get PET scans to determine all our
character flaws before starting a job.

(I don’t actually mind peeing in a cup, I just like playing Devil’s Advocate.)

Hey! That’s my job! :angry:

I hate being monitored, having people looking over my shoulder. I work remotely from my home now just to get some peace. Nonetheless, I can appreciate what a tough job the police have, and if we are not going to have a death penalty, I would definitely go with missy’s idea for more prisons.

djm

A’ight, folks, yer gettin into the realm of making a big deal out of something that is really very, very , very small, especially when it’s stacked up next to other ways of tracking people that you come into contact with every day that I can guarantee you don’t even know about.
What the encoding does for a color print is the same thing that the serial ID on the back of a 1hr photo print, the coding on any home burned CD or home recorded floppy, copied VHS tape (yup, betcha diddn’t know the last time you tried to copy a rented tape, the tape logged the date, time, and type of machine used to make the copy), copied DVD, and several other coded tracking devices does: it identifies what machine the material or media came out of.
Let’s say, hypothetically, we have a kiddie-porn dealer…we’ve caught him, we have his stash of home generated photos, and we have reason to believe that he’s only the distributor…
Using the method described in the article we can more surely connect the actual photographs to the producer through his own machinery. Methods like this are employed all the bloody time…we caught the BTK killer through a similar form of information tracking.
no one is using this to spy on you, fer cryin in the mud!
Think about it, even if the govornment is interested in you, they have to plant software inside your computer to tell your unit to encode information in a print…then that sly silly govornment has to convince you to make a print and give it to them…uh huh, thats borderline entrapment…I doubt any court in the country would consider evidence gathered in such a manner as heavily as being able to identify without a shadow of a doubt that a particular piece of kiddie-porn or other such related material came from an identified suspects printer…(btw, identifying the printer can also be used to ID the computer used to produce the material, even if the units are separated).
Now, stop it…thats silly!
If you don’t, you’ll all have to line up for a spanking :smiley:

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