Ha!! Ha ha!!
I find it interesting that my Susato (Kildare Sop. D, black) sounds identical, and I mean identical to the O’Riordans that Joanie plays, and to the Fred Rose whistle.
I don’t know if it’s because my whistle happens to be the “black-sheep” of the bunch, or whether it’s because of a minor accident I had with the blade and a Q-tip (long story…) but I’m NOT KIDDING YOU! It sounds IDENTICAL!
That kind of talk is called HERESY. Just pray that no one else reads or responds to this topic and it quietly dies away without your being burned at the stake…
ooOOOOOooo! 
Heresy you say? Is that a threat??? smiles innocently and sweetly
Gee, I didn’t know that would happen for telling the truth… 
Besides, I figured on getting flamed for it anyway. And hey! It’s my opinion. I’m entitled, and no one else has to share it with me.
[ This Message was edited by: The Whistling Elf on 2002-07-06 01:00 ]
It’s all about you, isn’t it?!
LOL 
Kim
Is the Kildare a SB or a VSB model? There is a difference between the two. I have a customer with a low Kildare G that loves the tone.
Elf,
In order to make such a statement I presume you actually have Rose and O’Riordan whistles to compare the Susato to?
Loren
Six messages in and you don’t seem to be singed yet…
The restraint of those who are less than fond of “S” whistles is absolutely amazing - or maybe its a holiday weekend and they haven’t been in yet. For myself, I’ll practice restraint and merely say that I entertain a great deal of skepticism regarding your premise.
Chuck,
Perhaps no one has flamed simply because Elf’s post is so clearly a troll…
Loren
On 2002-07-06 00:57, The Whistling Elf wrote:
Gee, I didn’t know that would happen for telling the truth… >
That’s usually the reason someone gets crucified. Pathological liars go to Congress.
Gary, it’s a Small Bore model, but I think it sounds different from the average because I accidentally “tweaked” the blade with a Q-tip when I was cleaning the mouthpiece… So the edge of the blade is rippled a bit, so that might affect the tone…
Loren, no, I do not have a Rose or a O’Riordan, but my basis for my statement is that all the recordings (any format, MP3, CD, Tape, ect.) sound the same when in comparison. That’s why I said what I said. And I’m entitled to my opinion, like I said before. No one has to agree with me, no one’s under any pressure to agree with me. I just stated my findings and my opinion based on those findings because I felt like sharing…
Blackhawk wrote:
That’s usually the reason someone gets crucified. Pathological liars go to Congress.
lol! That’s good!
On 2002-07-06 14:12, The Whistling Elf wrote:
Loren, no, I do not have a Rose or a O’Riordan, but my basis for my statement is that all the recordings (any format, MP3, CD, Tape, ect.) sound the same when in comparison. That’s why I said what I said. And I’m entitled to my opinion, like I said before. No one has to agree with me, no one’s under any pressure to agree with me. I just stated my findings and my opinion based on those findings because I felt like sharing…
Well okay, if all recorded whistles sound the same to you, then you’ve got it made - no need to ever buy another whistle! Good for you.
BTW, I never suggested that you weren’t entitled to your opinion, nor did I suggest you shouldn’t post it. I do howeverthink you either started this thread looking for trouble, or you don’t have a very good ear - it’s got to be one or the other because all whistles (recorded or otherwise) do not sound alike.
But then that’s just my opinion…
Loren
Whistling Elf: Assuming you are serious about not hearing differences in recorded whistles - and are not simply firing for effect:
May I suggest an entry level set of project recording studio monitors for you - to replace the speakers you are currently using… This type of speaker is not built to sound ‘nice’ for the home listener. Instead, the object is a reference for creating recorded media.
Units are available from Tannoy, Foxtex, HHB, Audix, Yamaha, Alesis, Event, and others, for between $200 and $400/pair. I will admit to a fondness for Tannoy (UK) monitors, as my studio uses them for main near-field monitoring. While the units we use are more expensive, at the price point mentioned above, the Tannoy Proto-J and Reveal series are particularly transparent, and IMHO will allow you to clearly hear differences in recorded whistles. They will also allow you to hear differences in - and between - all recorded media. Poorly made recordings will sound truly awful…and excellent recordings will positively glisten.
It is easy to spend between $5000 and $10,000 on a good pair of studio monitors. For the above mentioned speakers, the under $400/pair nearfield monitors do a remarkable job.
Cheers and happy listening to you.
Byll
Loren, Not all recorded whistles sound the same to me. And I actually have a very good ear. I was just commenting on the uncanny similarity between the tone of those three whistles.
Byll, I did not start this thread for effect. I started it simply because I wanted to share what I had found.
And also, could it be or could it not be that my particular whistle is an “odd-ball” due to the weird shape of the blade after I almost ruined it?? (no attitude, sarcasm, ect. intended)
[ This Message was edited by: The Whistling Elf on 2002-07-06 22:29 ]
Lest one forgets, it is not what you play, but how you play it. A mediocre instrument in the hands of a talented player will sound great; conversely, a fabulous instrument in the hands of an apprentice player will sound…uh, you get the idea.
HOGWASH!!
The more you pay for a whistle the better it sounds! Why else would people pay three or four hundred dollars for a whistle when there are plenty of ten dollar whistles about?!?
On 2002-07-07 23:23, John Allison wrote:
HOGWASH!!The more you pay for a whistle the better it sounds! Why else would people pay three or four hundred dollars for a whistle when there are plenty of ten dollar whistles about?!?
Because they feel better about themselves.
Is it really so serious for someone to decide they like their new whistle? Is everyone going to stop buying the expensive whistles on account of it? If someone brings one into a session, will the other players stop, blink at it wearily, and say, “Hell with it, lets all just have a pint?”
Who do you work for, man? WHO ARE YOOUUU…
Or are you all just joshing our friendly neighborhood Celeborn in a slightly abrasive but good-natured fashion which he well understands?
I’m always missing this stuff… must be the Asperger’s Syndrome…
Whistling Elf - I have a Susato and a Rose. Believe me, there is no comparison. The Susato needs extra oomph to hit the upper register which is too loud as a result, and its tonal accuracy is questionable.
The Rose is spot on accurate across all THREE octaves (I can’t get the third on the Susato without needing a hernia and a hearing aid), the balance between the octaves on the Rose is smooth, sweet and effortless, and the tone is warmer and mellower yet strong. My Susato has therefore been gathering dust for over a year.
Recordings are one thing, actually playing is altogether something else.
I have a blackwood Rose, too and I agree that it is a very lovely high quality instrument. However, I think it is too loud and piercing for sessions. So it makes me feel embarrassed and kind of rude because I’m afraid it could hurt other folk’s feelings.
Claudine - if there’s one fault I’ve seen posted about the Rose on this site, it’s that it could be a tiny bit louder for sessions (personally I think not).
So - don’t be embarrassed, believe in yourself and let that Rose sing! I still believe (IMHO) that it’s the best whistle money can buy