What is the easiest key whistle for "old rugged cross"

The title says it all really.

Its marked in C with some accidentals(?). Do I need to buy a C whistle? Or is it feasible play on a D whistle - learn Fnat and G# (assuming I have identified the correct accidentals)?

Thanks in advance for any help or hints.

Edit: I guess it should be a C whistle, but someone seemed to be playing a D whistle last night…

X: 18
T:The Old Rugged Cross
L:1/8
M:3/4
K:C
EF|"C"G3^F A2|G4 GG|"F"A3^G B2|A4 AA|"G7"B3A G2|F2 G2 F2|"C"E6-|E4 EF|
G3^F A2|G4 GG|"F"A3^G B2|A4 AA|"G"B3A G2|f2 e2 d2|"C"c6-|c4 Bc|
"G7"d3d d2|d2 c2 B2|"C"c6-|c4 cB|"F"A4 AA|c2 B2 A2|"G7"G6-|G4 Gc|
"C"e3e e2|e2 f2 e2|"F"A6-|A4 ff|"C"e3d c2|"G7"G2 B2 d2|"C"c6-|c4:|

Do you have a setting in mind like this one?

http://abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=www.alfwarnock.info/alfs/abc/alfmisc/0018

I’d transpose the notation to the whistle-friendly key of D, and play those accidentals as G# and A#.

X:1
T:Old Rugged Cross, The
M:3/4
K:D
FG|A3 ^G B2|A4 AA|B3 ^A c2|B4 BB|
c3B A2|G2 A2 G2|F6-|F4 FG|
A3 ^G B2|A4 AA|B3 ^A c2|B4 BB|
c3B A2|g2 f2 e2|d6-|d4|]
cd|e3e e2|e2 d2 c2|d6-|d4 dc|
B4 BB|d2 c2 B2|A6-|A4 Ad||
f3f f2|f2 g2 f2|B6-|B4 gg|
f3e d2|A2 c2 e2|d6-|d4|]

D whistle should work fine, as there are no low Cs in the tune.
You need to half-hole the G# (or cross-finger it) and F nat,
and cross-finger the C nat.
Fnat and Cnat should be easy enough, G# needs getting used to.

On a C whistle you’d need to half-hole the F# in the tune (which is G# in D whistle terminology), so you may as well stick to your D whistle.

Thank you both for the responses.

I am not at all sure. I do not know what you mean by ‘setting’, sorry (some times my ignorance irritates even me). All I know is that they seemed to have fun knocking out the tune. I saw a chap there playing along happily on a whistle which I believe was a D - he only had one high whistle and used it most of the evening, so I am assuming it was a D…

But I would need a different whistle key to be in tune with everybody else? I am guessing you mean a C whistle? I am still poor at this ‘key algebra’.

I must try both ways, I guess, and then if required buy a C whistle. There is obviously no way around using ‘non-native’ notes, s that probably rules out joining in this tune at a session for a long time. [I have realised there are several levels of knowing a tune, and only my very best gets anywhere near session-ready] It will go on my practice list though, and I will try something easier.

[Fnat I can approximate in both octaves, though I dont trust my ear hugely. Half-holing with T3 seems more difficult]

But thanks again both of you.

“Setting” in this context means the provided notation.

MTG’s transposed notation is for the benefit of playing the tune in C on a C whistle while reading it as if it is in D, i.e. using normal D fingering.

If you use your own notation (in which the tune is in C), you need to use the D whistle and take care to play F nats instead of F#s, and C nats instead of C#s. I think it is good practise to play C tunes on the D whistle, especially if they lack a low C, so fall well on the D whistle note range.

As for fingering G#: you could try XXOXXX. It is a bit sharp, but as a leading note you may get away with it.

I use MT’s setting; the G# and A# are easy to learn. There is a harmony abc file floating around somewhere (which I cannot find just now) for this setting.

I can’t make much sense of ABC, but I have the sheet music in front of me, that I wrote out in the key of D.

I play it in the key of D on a D whistle, so I’d just switch to a C whistle to play it in C.

Yes you have to be able to hit G# and Bb/A#.

With those 19th century and early 20th century hymns it was very common to throw in the sharp fourth, what would be G# in the key of D.

In some, the sharp fourths outnumber the natural fourths, in MELITA (Eternal Father Strong To Save) for one.

Thanks for those suggestions.

I will practice this, but not with the intention to play it at a session any time soon. (Something in the 1689 Bill of Rights about 'cruel and unusual punishment, I believe :smiley: ). I am going to have to master all these non-native(?) notes sometime.

Either that, or cough at the appropriate place.

Cunning. But my coughing is as tuneless as my singing so I will need coughing lessons…