Hi gang,
Anyone know any good Welsh tunes?
Thanks,
Doc
You could try
Contemplator’s](http://www.contemplator.com/wales/%3EContemplator%27s): Folk Music of Wales Site as a start.
How 'bout “The Ash Grove”? Been one of my favorites forever.
Redwolf
On 2002-10-09 16:55, Redwolf wrote:
How 'bout “The Ash Grove”? Been one of my favorites forever.Redwolf
Great choice, Redwolf! How about Led Zeppelin’s “Bron-Yr-Aur”? 
The welsh are very fond of hymns. They are the only native ethnic group in the UK that has little or no sense of humor. Jolly jigs are just not their “thing”.
No sense of humor?
then how do you account for…
Delilah
What’s New Pussycat?
Green, Green Grass Of Home
She’s A Lady
Now THAT made me laugh. Thank you, Tony.
Susan
(I just got thinking - about three years ago my daughter was taking some sort of computer/internet class in high school and had to create a web page. For some reason I still can’t fathom she created an entire Tom Jones web page, complete with flaming hips. It was great!)
[ This Message was edited by: susnfx on 2002-10-09 21:00 ]
Hi Doc,I second,or third?,‘The ash grove’-Harry Bradley’s latest album,‘As i carelessly did stray’has a great version of this tune(and also a fantastic,albeit non welsh,‘The prettymaid milking her cow’).You could of course stick with the Tom Jones’ material,and become the worlds’ first whistler to have women throw their panties at!- altogether now; “you don’t have to be beautiful…”!!
On 2002-10-09 18:26, Whitmores75087 wrote:
The welsh are very fond of hymns. They are the only native ethnic group in the UK that has little or no sense of humor. Jolly jigs are just not their “thing”.
Terry Jones. Not only funny in comedy shows and films but the funniest host of world history documentaries I’ve seen.
But he’s still not as funny as TOM Jones…
Oh, and on topic, All Through the Night is Welsh…
edited just to say that
“But business is business and business must grow
Regardless of crummies in tummies, you know.”
[ This Message was edited by: Dewhistle on 2002-10-09 23:59 ]
On 2002-10-09 13:51, Doc Jones wrote:
Anyone know any good Welsh tunes?
Links to some Welsh stuff. Please let me know if you find any others.
http://www.worldtrad.org/Country/ctry_wales.htm
Kevin Krell
On 2002-10-09 18:26, Whitmores75087 wrote:
They are the only native ethnic group in the UK that has little or no sense of humor. Jolly jigs are just not their “thing”.
As a regular visitor to Wales, I can say you couldn’t be more wrong. They laugh a lot, but what they’re talking about I wouldn’t know coz Cymraeg is about as incomprehensible as a language can get.
Regarding tunes, try “Ffoles Llantrisant” (The Foolish Girl from Llantrisant) - it’s a lively jig (as are many Welsh tunes).
To play Ash Grove on a D whistle, you need to be able to play an F natural.
A very simple Welsh tune is All Through the Night. And it’s pretty.
There are a handful of Welsh tunes in Robin Williamson’s book English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish Fiddle Tunes. I can’t vouch for them. Some of his versions of Irish tunes are a bit odd. There has been a great Welsh band that has appeared a couple of times at the festival in Goderich, Ontario. Their music is quite different from most of the othe music from Celtic lands that I’ve heard. I guess it’s most similar to Breton music than Scottish or Irish though. One member plays an interesting hornpipe (instrument, not dance tune). Lots of vocals I can’t understand. Here’s their web site. http://www.carreglafar.co.uk/
Steve
Well, one half-holing ain’t so bad. Sometimes the tune is worth it (and I think The Ash Grove is). OTOH, one can also finger around the F nat…playing a bit of ornamentation or just staying on the G for all three notes, if one’s half-holing is shakey.
Speaking of hymns, yes indeed…some of my favorite hymn tunes are Welsh. Hyfrydol (“Alleluia, Sing to Jesus” or “Love Divine, All Loves Excelling”) is very easy on the whistle, and sounds quite pretty. Cwm Rhondda is also pretty easy, but does’t translate to the whistle sound quite as well.
Redwolf
This site has some tunes:
http://ingeb.org/catwal.html
And if you are interested in some historical stuff:
http://www.red4.co.uk/Folklore/trevelyan/glimpse/singing.htm
http://www.cyberstudia.com/celtic-cultural-studies/papers/griffen/change.html
http://www.josef-bayer.de/landofsong/
Hwyl,
Andrea
On 2002-10-09 18:26, Whitmores75087 wrote:
The welsh are very fond of hymns. They are the only native ethnic group in the UK that has little or no sense of humor. Jolly jigs are just not their “thing”.
What do you mean,"No sense of humor, they have a town called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch They laugh when people try to pronounce it.
There were some great hymns that came out of the Welsh revival, I had never thought of playing them on a whistle until now. “Guide Me Oh Thou Great Jehova” would sound great on a whistle otherwise known as Cwm Rhondda. Check out -: http://www.cyberhymnal.org/non/cy/welsh.htm
or -: http://www.fastdesign.com/music/welsh/welsh.htm
The Ash Grove is a good one, All Through the Night, and good old Men of Harlech.
On 2002-10-10 10:29, Redwolf wrote:
Well, one half-holing ain’t so bad. Sometimes the tune is worth it (and I think The Ash Grove is). OTOH, one can also finger around the F nat…playing a bit of ornamentation or just staying on the G for all three notes, if one’s half-holing is shakey.Redwolf
I agree that this tune is worth it. It’s gorgeous, so much so that it has made me WANT to learn to half-hole F nautral. I’m…umm…still learning.
On 2002-10-10 20:17, FJohnSharp wrote:
On 2002-10-10 10:29, Redwolf wrote:
Well, one half-holing ain’t so bad. Sometimes the tune is worth it (and I think The Ash Grove is). OTOH, one can also finger around the F nat…playing a bit of ornamentation or just staying on the G for all three notes, if one’s half-holing is shakey.Redwolf
I agree that this tune is worth it. It’s gorgeous, so much so that it has made me WANT to learn to half-hole F nautral. I’m…umm…still learning.
Where are you getting copies of “The Ash Grove” that use an F natural? The only music I’ve found for it so far are in the key of G.
~Larry
I initially learned to play it (The Ash Grove) by ear (actually, I first learned it as a song long before I ever picked up a whistle), but when I bought a copy of Robin Williamson’s “The Penny Whistle Book,” I noticed that he plays it in the same key (D) as I do…he just stays on that high G for 3 notes (doesn’t work for me…my mind insists on supplying that half step down!). Anyway, to play it in D, you start on low A…the only quirky bit is the F nat., and only in that one measure (the part that, depending on your version goes “his notes from a tree” or “the joy of my heart.”)
I haven’t found a configuration for that song yet that didn’t require some kind of fancy fingering somewhere…this one seems to be the easiest, at least for me.
Redwolf
"To play Ash Grove on a D whistle, you need to be able to play an F natural. "
…what’s wrong with starting on D and just jumping to the upper register when the time comes…OTOH…halfholing isn’t so bad once you get used to it… Gm