Wood Wooden Flute 8 Key Rudall Carte C. 1867 NR
Item number: 3723252603
IS A TOTALLY FRAUDULENT LISTING. THE “SELLER” COPIED MY PICTURE AND DESCRIPTION VERBATIM FROM A PREVIOUS LEGITIMATE LISTING. THIS IS A PURE SCAM.
I WOULD ALSO BE CAUTIOUS WITH REGARD TO THIS EBAY AUCTION: 19thC Wooden Flute Stamped Rudall Rose Carte & Co.
Item number: 3722572734.
When a seller says “Stamped Rudall…” it is recognised in the auction world that the seller is not claiming that the object is what it purports to be, only that it is stamped as such and could well be a counterfeit.
Have you informed the ‘e-bay authorities?’ People are bidding on it and I would hate to think some poor bugger is going to lose their hard earned cash.
The vendor of the Rudall Rose & Co band flute is a regular , and I believe decent ,vendor .
I think she is just being cautious , the laws here being strict on descriptions .To describe an item as “by” rather than "attributed to ", or “stamped” might establish a strict liability .
The flute is interesting in being of cocus wood .
I told eBay as well about the latest fraudulent offering .They need to be told things a few times , being a dozy lot !
The same sort of thing happened a few weeks ago concerning a very beautiful Ivory Monzani which was being offered in a three day sale with no proper reserve .It turned out that the supposed vendor had reproduced the illustrations from an auction catalogue of a pending sale .
Luckily I was able to buy the item over the phone in the auction a couple of weeks later so the fraudulent advert turned out to be useful !
( I hope I don’t get hassle now from the " Society for the Welfare of Long Dead Elephants " ! ).
The apparent attempted fraud is now in the hands of the police .
Perhaps one of you computer buffs can explain how it is that some naughty person whose email address is known , as in the present case , cannot readily be apprehended by the authorities .Or do they simply not care ?.
It can a bit tricky, it could a be throw away email account or even a stolen one. You can track the logs on the servers and find out where the access, but this can be diffcult or easy depending upon the sophistication the scammer. I doubt these folks are that bright.
The supposed vendor has sent me an address to send my Western Union payment to in Venice .You would think that an Italian policeman could check out who is sitting waiting !
It’s happened before here in the states, but the person spent a great deal of time convincing the police to do something. He did the hard part himself tracking the person down, and then lucked out that it was in a small town which had a low enough crime rate that the local police could spend effort on fraud.
If you want to persuse it, try contacting the Venice police, the Western Union, fraud dept if there is one, or your local post office. I don’t remember off hand where you are at, but the US post office has a pretty significant investigative dept for mail fraud.
Same thing happened with a gold flute about two weeks ago. The real one is in New York at “Your flute works” owned by Ann Pollack who is James Galways techie for fixing up his flutes before his annual tour over here. She has it for sale for $13,500.00. I spotted it and had coincidentally seen it on Ann’s web site so I wrote to the vendor asking pointed detailed questions, got rubbish in terribly bad english back stating I should send $3500 to his bank account in England for an under the counter buy. pronto of course. I told Ann Pollack and she agreed it was a scam so I warned e-bay and each of the 3 bidders but did not think of putting in an outrageous multi-million bid—good thinking whoever did it.
I have a real gripe with e-bay, they responded slowly and they have little interest in preventing a fraud before it happens, are really set up fot chasing down fraud and problems after they have occurred.
It’s happened again. Same gold flute, probably same con artist.
Listed this morning. I alerted Anne Pollack and e-bay. Take a look under flutes on e-bay U.S. site. It the Landell.
They are not often seen ,so are considered a national treasure .They would be more use if they lay in the potholes to stop drivers bottoming on their suspensions .Do you remember Burnham Wood going to Dunsinane in Macbeth ? They were really council workers who had been stationary so long that people thaught they were trees .It was only when they went on strike for better shovels to lean on that …
