Vote Thread - early capitulation

What an interesting thread. Personally, I am not a whistle maker (I’m trying to make a copper low D, but right now it sounds like I am just blowing air through a tube), but I have really enjoyed reading the tech talk threads.

Serpent, you seemed to have stirred up something. Seems people are kind of upset at your postings/new forum request. Personally, I like the threads and would like to see them continue. If people don’t like them, they can choose to not read them.

I also read where someone was upset about other threads getting bumped down the page. On my browser (I assumed this was true of all) messages that are new since my last access are marked with pink folders, as opposed to yellow folders. So its pretty easy to see which messages are new, even if I have to hit the PageDown key.

I also find the voting interesting. The question was do you want a new forum crreated. I like the messages here, so I would vote “No”, while others don’t like the messages, and vote “No”. It seems like if you didn’t like the messages you would vote “Yes”, so the messages would be moved to another forum that you would never have to check, and would uinclutter the forum that you love.

Happy Surfing!

John Mac

Bill Wrote:

Those of you with the stick up your butt over this can now remove it, unknot your knickers (or un-bunch your panties, as the case may be), and rest easy. Your positions as All Powerful Alpha Male/Female of C&F Poststructural are no longer threatened.

Bill, I don’t believe that this was part of your original post. I think it was put in many hours later. Comments like these would be better served as part of a normal reply. JP



[ This Message was edited by: JohnPalmer on 2002-10-28 12:25 ]

Good grief!

Now we’re drifting from flame wars to game theory!

I think that your labelling threads “tech talk” and keeping them on this board is the ideal solution which you so elegantly found, Bill, so don’t cheese people off by getting heated about it, even if you were subjected to some unnecessary abuse when you started out here.

Any Reasonable Person will expect both professional and amateur makers to post on such threads, and I don’t think that the pros will be seen as engaging in commercial self-promotion for doing so. If some want to share their knowledge, while others want to keep their trade secrets, that’s OK too: for me the music is all for enjoyment, but if some people want to make a living or supplement their incomes with whistle-making, that’s OK by me. We all still benefit.

So that’s a well-meaning vote No.

On 2002-10-27 14:39, serpent wrote:
To avoid further bitterness and the possibility of more nasty, venomous hate-posts, I am going to drop the idea of a technical forum for wind instruments. I did not try to force anyone to not comment - I requested that they not do so, quite politely, twice - first here in the quoted bit below, and later perhaps a bit more vehemently, but still well within the realm of politeness, considering the treatment my first request received.

“Dale does enough for us” may well be true, but creating a forum is the matter of a couple of seconds if this BBS software is of any level of sophistication at all. I didn’t think I was requesting any monumental task of him.

Further, it would have been polite, and would have saved a good deal of jerking around, had Dale had the courtesy to simply come online and say “Nope”. He is, after all, the owner of the board, and by now should know that I don’t argue with his decisions. “Implied no” doesn’t cut it. Moot point now, anyway. It’s dropped.

I do intend to continue the “Whistle Tech Talk…” threads, as the spirit arises, because some of us do seem to enjoy them and have fun together, which is certainly more desirable than the sniping and bad feelings I’ve gotten from other areas. I guess I’ll just have to hope that the flute and pipe folks will hear about them and jump in with their tech stuff, too, or take up the mantle on their own fora.

Those of you with the stick up your butt over this can now remove it, unknot your knickers (or un-bunch your panties, as the case may be), and rest easy. Your positions as All Powerful Alpha Male/Female of C&F Poststructural are no longer threatened. In actuality, they never were, but you were evidently too dense to figure out that a vote in favor of the new forum was a vote to get rid of me on this one. Enjoy the consequences of your lack of comprehension…
See ya around > :smiley:
Bill Whedon

The sole intent of this thread is to collect votes, pro or con, in “petition” to Dale to either create, or not create, a new forum for Celtic Wind Instrument Engineering. This forum would include whistles, flutes, and pipes, and would be dedicated primarily to technical discussion about any and all.

If you think something like this would be a Good Thing, please vote “yes”.

If you think it’s a lame idea from somebody who’s just trying to leech off the board, or any other reason you don’t like it, please vote “no”.

I would very much appreciate it if participants would avoid lobbying in either direction. “yes” or “no” will do fine.

Thanks for caring, either way.
Bill Whedon

[ This Message was edited by: serpent on 2002-10-27 21:59 ]

[ This Message was edited by: serpent on 2002-10-27 22:17 ]

No(just for the record)

drama…

On 2002-10-28 12:22, JohnPalmer wrote:
Bill Wrote:

Those of you with the stick up your butt over this can now remove it, unknot your knickers (or un-bunch your panties, as the case may be), and rest easy. Your positions as All Powerful Alpha Male/Female of C&F Poststructural are no longer threatened.

Bill, I don’t believe that this was part of your original post. I think it was put in many hours later. Comments like these would be better served as part of a normal reply. JP



[ This Message was edited by: JohnPalmer on 2002-10-28 12:25 ]

It was, indeed, added later, with much other text explaining the name change. I put it all up front because I figured that since the name changed, people would look there. Apparently I was right, with some.

However, I see that it is equally applicable here, at the end, so thanks for bringing it back to me! :slight_smile:

To the others who have started reading the WTT#n threads, thanks for participating. I hope we’ll all find them useful.
Cheers,
Bill Whedon