Vikane and Cloropicrin Gases

Yeah, I know this heading sounds Waaay off topic but stick with me here…

I’ve been informed that my apartment building will soon be tent fumigated due to termite infestation. This means all the residents have to move out for several days while the building is flooded with Vikane and Cloropicrin gases.

I’ve been given a list of things that must be removed from the building during this time, including all food, medication, etc. There is also the suggestion that clothes, linnens and dishes be washed at the end of this process.

Now I’m wondering about my whistles: If I leave them in the building,
should I be concered about residue from the gases? Will I ingest any of this stuff by playing my whistles after the fumigation? The Vikane gas is what kills the termites, I assume this means it penetrates into wood - How is this likely to affect my wooden whistles?

Anyone out there familliar with these chemicals? Sounds like perhaps a question for Neil? Unfortunately I’m on short notice here, so if anyone can help with this it would be much apprectiated!

Thanks :slight_smile:

Loren

[ This Message was edited by: Loren on 2001-09-06 09:06 ]

I don’t know about these gases, but if they are telling you to wash anything your lips or skin will touch, I’d take those whistles with you (I’m assuming you don’t have hundreds).

Loren, don’t assume that it permeates the wood. Many insecticides work by being absorbed from contact, not ingestion (critter waltzes across floor that has minute residue, residue is absorbed through chitin).

But anything that you’re going to put in your mouth really should either be cleaned or taken out of the apartment. I’ll get details on the two chemicals and send them to you.


ADDENDUM: HOLY CROW! THE CLOROPICRIN IS NOT TO BE TREATED LIGHTLY! WASH WASH WASH…TAKE ALL YOUR WHISTLES OUT. I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO CLEAN YOUR HOUSE THOROUGHLY AFTER. I am a bit of a worrier/greenie, but anything that has been used for chemical warfare makes me go screaming for the hills.


Tyghress
…And I go on, pursuing through the hours,
Another tiger, the one not found in verse.
Jorge Luis Borges

[ This Message was edited by: tyghress on 2001-09-06 09:40 ]

Remarkable Loren, you worry about your whistles before you worry about your dog.
Thank god, you’ve got your priorities straight.

I am with Tygress on that one: pack up all your whistles in a huge trunk and haul it out of there as fast as you can.

Don’t forget you dog
S.

On 2001-09-06 10:42, Otter wrote:
Remarkable Loren, you worry about your whistles before you worry about your dog.
Thank god, you’ve got your priorities straight.

Hey now! Nothing is more important to me than my dog, I took care of him first! My best friend already has reservations with his favorite vet: He’ll spend a few days, get all his shots, have his teeth cleaned, and get a microchip to boot. Maybe not as fun as a run in the park, but certainly much better than fumigation :slight_smile:

Tygress,

Thanks for the warnings; This is exactly what I was afraid of. I’m sure all these chemicals will do wonders for my asthma as well :frowning:

Guess I’ve got some more packing to do, what a drag…

Dear Loren,

Vikane and Chloropicrin are manufactured by the Dow Chemical Company. This link takes you to a page which has all of the Material Safety Data Sheet information, and more besides:

http://www.dowagro.com/main/product_labels.asp?Product_ID=648&Label=All&Area=5

The first link on that page is a copy of the product container label. The MSDS is further down, and there is also a document on chloropicrin. Apparently vikane is odorless and not detectable by humans, so the chloropicrin is added as an odorant.

There’s a lot of solid information here and the bad news is that it’s all in “pdf” format, which means that you have to have a copy of the Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer to be able to examine the files. The good news is that Acrobat Reader is free, easy to install, and works great. The Dow people put a link to the Adobe site at the bottom of their page.

If you need something right away, here’s a link to Dow’s “Tips” page. It is readily readable:

http://www.dowagro.com/pestweb/pco/Products/DW_Termite/Vikane/vikane3.htm

I have attached a copy of it below, but use the link to convince yourself that I got it right.

One way or the other, peace of mind is cheap here. My advice would be to pack anything you might put on your skin or in your mouth and take it with you. I would certainly take my pennywhistles with me, but also would be sure to take things like makeup, toothbrush and paste, shampoo, and the like. I would probably take all my clothes and bedclothes as well. Pots, pans, and dishes, would go through the dishwasher once, maybe twice, when I got back – depending on how worried I was. Obviously, I agree with others who have commented in this thread.

Here’s the “Tip Sheet”:

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Answers to commonly asked questions about fumigation with Vikane gas fumigant

How much Vikane gas fumigant should be applied to my home?

This can only be determined by the fumigator, as factors such as target pest, exposure time, seal of the structure, temperature and size of the structure are taken into account. The fumigator will calculate the proper amount of Vikane gas fumigant to introduce using a calculator specially designed for this purpose.

What items need to be removed from my house for the fumigation?

Living plants and animals should be removed from the structure. Food, feed and medicinals (anything that could be ingested) should be removed or double-bagged in Nylofume* bags. This includes medicines, food, drink, toothpaste and wine bottles in which the cork is showing. If the item is an unopened, airtight can or bottle, you may leave it in the house during fumigation.

Plastic covered mattresses, pillows, etc. also should be removed. This is because the plastic cover will slow aeration of the fumigant. Filled waterbeds need not be removed.

Does Vikane cause corrosion or other damage?

Sulfuryl fluoride in the gaseous state does not react with most materials and thus is highly unlikely to cause damage to structures or their contents when properly applied.

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I hope all goes well for you, and I hope this information and the links I found help you to make good decisions.

Thanks for the speedy responses and information everyone, I REALLY appreciate it!!

Neil, thanks a million for the links:)

Looks like I’ve got a ton of packing to do :frowning:

All the Best,

Loren

You’re welcome, Loren. Glad to help!

Hey, loren. Just to be safe, remove anything you usually stick in or near your mouth and wash everything else.

Loren!

Wow, that’s unfortunate. But look at the bright side: No more spiders in your Clarkes! :slight_smile:

Seriously, though, good luck, and let us know how things go!

Tom

On 2001-09-08 11:19, WyoBadger wrote:
Loren!

Wow, that’s unfortunate. But look at the bright side: No more spiders in your Clarkes! > :slight_smile:

Seriously, though, good luck, and let us know how things go!

Tom

Tom,

The funny thing is that the pest control company provided us with a handout explaining that while the termites would all be wiped out, the spiders, and certain other critters would likely survive the fumigation - something about spiders being able to lower their respiratory rates.

They also mentioned that we would probably be heavily invaded by ants immediately after the fumigation - seems they like to eat dead termites… Now here in Florida we have these Fire Ants that have a really nasty bite - causes blistering etc. Boy am I glad the termites are gone, they were really bothering me…Not.

Anyway, I’m back home - whistles and all. Thanks again everyone:)

Loren

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