Tweaking a Generation C ???

I just picked up a Generation C. It’s my 2nd whistle. (My first is a Clarke Original D.)It plays fine in the first octave with almost no air pressure required but when I get up into the second octave, specifically, on or about F and above, I get this combination of the high and low note sounding together. I can overcome it by really using a lot more air but the problem still occurs intermittently.

I could see a couple of threads of plastic when I looked inside and I knocked them out with a piece of wire. That helped a little. It does look like they used a lot of glue. Almost like there are some small globs of it in the barrel at the base of the mouthpiece. So I tried to soak the mouthpiece off by the usual method. No luck. That baby is on tight.

Next I tried very very lightly sanding the edge of the blade. That also cleaned up the sound just a bit.

I also want to fill the sub windway cavity but first I really think I should get the mouthpiece off and deal with that glue and any extraneous plastic chaff (not to be confused with chiff.

So any suggestions? More hot water and patience?

This whistle sounds great in the low octave and even in the upper when I have enough air behind it.

Generation Cs are the hardest to get the fipple off of.
It takes lots of hot water, elbow grease and patience.
There’s a good possibility the fipple will crack during removel or even a little later on, so don’t be surprised if it does.
They fit too tight even after removing all the glue and generously lubricating them.
The fipples on Generation Fs also fit too tight, and are similarly prone to cracking, but not nearly as bad as Cs.


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[ This Message was edited by: raindog1970 on 2002-09-20 07:16 ]

On 2002-09-20 07:15, raindog1970 wrote:
Generation Cs are the hardest to get the fipple off of.
It takes lots of hot water, elbow grease and patience.
There’s a good possibility the fipple will crack during removel or even a little later on, so don’t be surprised if it does.
They fit too tight even after removing all the glue and generously lubricating them.
The fipples on Generation Fs also fit too tight, and are similarly prone to cracking, but not nearly as bad as Cs.


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[ This Message was edited by: raindog1970 on 2002-09-20 07:16 ]

You could try icing up the barrel with an ice cube or simply leave the whistle in the freezer for a few minutes before immersing the fipple in near boiling water this helps to counteract the expansion of the brass.Boiling water may cause further shrinkage of the fipple sleeve so care should be taken to avoid cracking. Peace, Mike :slight_smile:

On 2002-09-20 07:15, raindog1970 wrote:

There’s a good possibility the fipple will crack during removel or even a little later on, so don’t be surprised if it does.

In that case I think I’ll save removing the fipple for a last resort.

In another thread BrassBlower noted that Generations often improve after a fair amount of playing, so I’ll try that as well.

Perhaps it’s just me. Should the Gen C require considerably more air pressure in the 2nd octave? It seems like it’s taking, proportionatly quite a bit more than my Clarke Orig D, but maybe that’s normal.

Thanks for the help.

tinhorn

On 2002-09-20 13:32, tinhorn wrote:


In that case I think I’ll save removing the fipple for a last resort.

In another thread BrassBlower noted that Generations often improve after a fair amount of playing, so I’ll try that as well.

Perhaps it’s just me. Should the Gen C require considerably more air pressure in the 2nd octave? It seems like it’s taking, proportionatly quite a bit more than my Clarke Orig D, but maybe that’s normal.

Thanks for the help.

tinhorn

My Gen C takes quite a bit of air in the upper octave also. It Doesn’t take quite as much as my Clarke C though, so I’n guessing this is normal.

And, yes Gens do seem to “play in”. Both my Gens (d and c) play much better now than when they were first purchased. Loosening the fipple on the d imporoved the tone a bit also, so if you can get the fipple off of the C that may help. If. The fipple on mine is ON. With a vengance.