Trip to Pakistan, Video

I think that somewhere on here I’ve seen a video of a young girl playing this tune on a low d in a shopping mall. Does anyone have that link as I want to learn that track with her arrangement.

Thanks in advance.

Rich.

This one?

Aye, that is the one. Thanks.

That girl is marathon runner material with those lungs! The Shaws i have tried felt like inflating a broken air mattress, air demand-wise :really:

Very nicely played.

Yes, nicely indeed. One of the few YT evidences of someone having the lungs to play a low D Shaw… :slight_smile:
But why oh why do people always add that bloody cheesy reverb to their whistle playing as soon as something somewhat slower is being played…? :boggle:

And here I thought the thread was going to be on an exposé about Sialkot City.

OH NO!!! Now I REALLY want a low D whistle and my hands are probably too small to play one!! :tantrum:

Well, I think most times reverb adds a bit of dimension in the tone that we are lacking in most anemic acoustic environments. It may be especially true for many of us when playing at home, where possibly rugs, drapes, and other such acoustic unfriendly objects deaden the sound to a point the tone can become quite boring, very often.

If you have ever played in an acoustically friendly, or even acoustically superior environment, you will find natural reverb really adds to the acoustic effect, and it becomes a very magical experience. I once was lucky enough to play my Chieftain Gold Low D in a vacant apartment, with hardwood floors, and I was totally blown away by the sound! I’ve never had an experience like it since, but it was great while it lasted. That taught me a lot about breath control!

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy playing low whistle and flute, or any acoustic instrument at home where it doesn’t sound as great, but if I had the chance, I’d rather play it in a vacant apartment, or similar environment, any day! I think that is where some recordings are coming from-trying to replicate near perfect conditions for playing, especially the slow, expressive stuff that is really enhanced by a bit of echo. At least that is my point of view, and I appreciate some added reverb or echo to recreate that amazing experience I had long ago.

But, if you poorly amplify an instrument, like an acoustic guitar, violin or the like, and make it sound like an electric solid body instrument (taking much of the substance of the acoustic tone away), then it isn’t something I enjoy very much, knowing it can sound so much better. A lot of amplification methods have improved tremendously in the last 20 years for acoustic instruments, that allow a natural sounding tone, though a bit enhanced, and that is the kind that I can still enjoy.

Well, if it comes right down to it, if the music is played or sung well and it makes me smile, I can appreciate it, no matter how it’s presented, though like anyone, I have my personal preferences, no doubt. If you find something not to your preferences, then just keep listening and maybe not try not to propose boundaries on their musical expression. There are so many talented musicians out there now that we all have such choices as never before to find what we like best, whatever kind of music it may be.

Personally, I think reverb can enhance, or add a lot to the tone of an instrument. Too much? That is just down to personal preferences at best.

Hm, yes, of course. It’s always a matter of taste; as for myself, I just find it entirely unnecessary to add some artificial reverb to your sound. I don’t like it on YT clips and I don’t like it on any recordings; I prefer the pure, plain sound of the instrument.

Even more so in this particular case, where I actually wanted to hear what the low Shaw sounds like… but well, if she finds that her whistle sounds better with reverb… again, it’s a matter of taste.

OK, but then again, the pure, plain sound of an instrument varies by where it is played-if you want it in an acoustically dead environment (or nearly so), it will sound very different than if played in a better acoustic room that results in one hearing a bit enhanced, though natural sound.

I do know what you mean though, if you are shopping for an instrument (rather than just listening to music) and have little else to base your evaluation on. Though any recording isn’t going to sound like you playing it in your living room, nor to your own ears as you are playing either, as opposed to you hearing it played by another person.

There are so many variables in listening to music clips or recordings that none hardly ever match what you hear in your own home, or played by you. Though there may be essential elements of the tone you can get from recordings, if you have no idea what a certain instrument sounds like, for sure.

But if just listening to music for your pleasure, maybe being rigid about reverb or the like isn’t such a good idea, as so much music is enhanced, however it is recorded, that just to dismiss it or not listen and miss a good performance would be a shame. And yes, personally I prefer acoustic instruments to sound as natural as they can sound-I don’t want an acoustic guitar to sound like a plugged in electric, or I would just listen to more electric guitar music, itself. Though I have to say, I can appreciate either, if I’m lucky enough to be hearing a great performance of a gifted musician. I have my prejudices too-you won’t catch me listening to rap or anything close, nor any heavy metal, or anything that screams or turns the bass up so high that your head becomes the drum! :open_mouth:

Jimmy Hendrix wasn’t exactly one of my favorites, but he surely could play guitar, and I can appreciate that-heck, even Iron Man was a group I used to listen to when I was a kid-loud too! Then I got over that nutty phase, and moved on! :laughing:

Try this video from the same person on YT, in a tutorial with the Shaw Low D-very little enhancement that I can hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzd_SDcM3_o&list=UUk5uLYWX5FTP3nd19lHrkmA&index=59

OK, but then again, the pure, plain sound of an instrument varies by where it is played-if you want it in an acoustically dead environment (or nearly so), it will sound very different than if played in a better acoustic room that results in one hearing a bit enhanced, though natural sound.

Sure, that’s why I complained about artificial reverb… but of course, you won’t find any modern recording that has not been post-processed in several ways. I myself like to use some compression on my whistle tracks to slightly compensate the volume differences of the registers. I think it’s something different though, whether you subtly optimise the sound, or really change (enhance?) it by putting effects like reverb on it… effects, that are more “pushy” in a certain way, as they significantly modify the acoustic experience IMHO.

However, I can understand why people like it, and maybe try to create a certain mood this way. It’s just not my cup of tea.

Jimmy Hendrix wasn’t exactly one of my favorites

Aw, I like him! But speaking of electrified music, I happen to be one of those who prefer just the “natural” overdrive of their tube amps (and maybe a wah wah or something) to those with two dozens of effects lying in front of them… it’s symptomatic, I guess!

Try this video from the same person on YT, in a tutorial with the Shaw Low D-very little enhancement that I can hear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzd_SDcM > … A&index=59

Thanks, I knew that clip, too… :slight_smile:

OK, then down to the root of it-you’re a compressioner, and a natural overdrive effects man…that would explain it! Just don’t wave any reverb in your face, I see. That’s just not normal, by the way…; ) Have at it then, and listen to your ear’s content, and don’t expect any interference from me from here on! You’re on your own then!!! :laughing:

PS, by the way…if you didn’t know it already, I’m just messing with you…I’m no judge of your ears, nor do I care to be!

Just don’t wave any reverb in your face, I see. That’s just not normal, by the way…

Exactly! … and maybe. :stuck_out_tongue:

PS, by the way…if you didn’t know it already, I’m just messing with you…I’m no judge of your ears, nor do I care to be!

Don’t worry, sir! I always appreciate some idle discussion about music.