# Tipple C Natural? **URL:** \ **Category:** Irish Flute\ **Created:** [November 6, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739 "2006-11-06T00:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eedbjp](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/eedbjp/32/150_2.png) [@eedbjp](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/eedbjp)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/1 "2006-11-06T00:11:19Z")
On Doug Tipple’s D flute I’ve tried every combination of fingering c natural that I know: oxoooo oxxooo oxxxoo oxoxxx It sounds really flat no matter what I do. I went to his site, but couldn’t view his fingering chart. Will I need to half-hole? ---
**Author:** ![m31](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/m31/32/1244_2.png) [@m31](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/m31)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/2 "2006-11-06T00:29:21Z")
Don’t worry, this is quite normal for many flutes and whistles. The best sounding natural C’s tend to be from keyed flutes or by half holing. ---
**Author:** ![Unseen122](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/unseen122/32/6588_2.png) [@Unseen122](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/Unseen122)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/3 "2006-11-06T00:47:01Z")
I used to use this OXXXOX when I had a Tipple, it sounded the best to me. ---
**Author:** ![jim\_stone](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f4b2a3/32.png) [@jim\_stone](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/jim_stone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/4 "2006-11-06T01:24:49Z")
You might write to Doug directly–e mail or PM him here. Also it is possible to lift the tone of a note by rolling out the flute, so you are blowing more over the hole than in it. You may be able to ‘blow the flute in tune.’ Also blowing a bit harder at the same time may help. Half-holing is unlikely to serve if you are playing at speed–it’s hard to do it quickly on a flute. Maybe you can do it for sustained notes. Better to find a way to play more or less in tune by cross-fingering. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Tipple](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/doug_tipple/32/667_2.png) [@Doug\_Tipple](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/Doug_Tipple)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/5 "2006-11-06T02:01:08Z")
I just checked the C nat on my personal low D flute with a glued-in wedge with a Korg digital tuner. I have no trouble playing the C natural right on pitch with OXX XOO. For me, the secret is to blow more down into the flute so that the first octave notes are near the breaking point. I think that many ITM players tend to blow this way because it brings out the overtones, making for a more complex sound. However, if I blow flatter acros the embouchure hole, I blow the C nat somewhat sharp. I don’t understand why the C nat should be noticeably flat. By the way, my personal flute has a C nat thumb hole, and I get the same C nat reading on the tuner with an open thumbhole as I do with the cross-fingered OXX XOO. Please contact me if you still have problems with the intonation of the flute. ---
**Author:** ![eedbjp](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/eedbjp/32/150_2.png) [@eedbjp](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/eedbjp)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 9:32pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/tipple-c-natural/42739/6 "2006-11-08T21:32:03Z")
I used oxxxoo with a tighter and more forceful airstream and it’s working out. Thank you for all of your suggestions.