Tionol St. Louis Report

Greetings All,

I’m not sure if this is interesting to anyone else, but I thought I would post a quick highlight summary of Tionol St. Louis for those who couldn’t make it…

The festivites got off to a start with the Friday night session and ceilidh. The music at the ceilidh was provided by the Dorians, and I managed to squash a few toes through out the night (even my own a couple of times =).

Saturday was spent in intermediate whistle workshop with Grey Larsen. Grey was a fantasic teacher who focused more on technique than simply learning new tunes (which was good because I had trouble enough with the tune he was using to illustrate his ornamentation - The Walls of Liscarrol). His approach to cutting was very unique (he cuts, not with the note like most books teach, but instead with the note above, so a cut on G is done with A and the G finger stays in place), and I found it very useful and a bit quicker in some places (perhaps the quickness has more to do with my finger dexterity, or lack of it =). The other really useful technique he taught was a downward slide (which was actually an upward slide started a note below where you wanted to end up at), and, for me, learning this was whistle enlightenment (one of those “Yeah! I get it!” moments =) because I’ve heard this technique everwhere but never really understood how it was done (okay! So I’m new to the whistle =). The rest of his instruction on cuts, strikes, slides and rolls was equally useful, and he even took a moment out to help me sort out my rhythm issue (which is really a lack of it), and I’m feelilng much better now (Thanks Grey!).

The Saturday night concert was simply awesome, and for me the highlight was hearing John Skelton playing the Bombarde. However, Larry Nugent played one heck of a mean whistle (which is the best I can describe it). Everyone else played brilliantly, and seeing Kevin Burke in action for the first time was a real experience (I’m such a newbie).

Now, for those who don’t know, and I certainly didn’t, the Bombarde is a small obo-like instrument that sounds a good deal like the pipes. However, it looks like a real bear to play since I could see John’s face turning red from all the way in the back row.

Wrapping things up on Sunday was the sessions at McGurks. It was a great lazy day just sitting around listening to the players, and drinking a pint of Fat Tire (sorry, I just can’t do the whole Guinness thing). The big highligh was listening to all the big wigs (Kevin Burke, Grey Larsen, Ged Foley, Mark Stone, etc) play. Like the rest of the weekend, the playing on Sunday was awesome.

The only thing I missed was the announcement of who won the Michael Burke whistle (I guess it wasn’t me since I didn’t hear anything =). Also, Grey Larsen is going to be releasing a book later this year on his whistle style and techniques. If his teaching style sucessfully transfers to his book then I’d recommend it.

Well that covers my experience at Tionol St. Louis, and if there were any doubts this event is easily worth the price of admission.

See everyone next year.

And…for the rest of us…a BIG highlight was meeting the star pupil of the intermidiate class…JASON BURKE!!!

Ged Foley was also TOTALLY awesome on the guitar. And …thanks Jason. I was WONDERING what that instrument John Skelton played!

Jason and I also had the pleasure of saying hello to Kardshark…( I think we embarrassed him)

Great FUN …can’t wait till next year.

On 2002-04-15 17:57, dd wrote:
Jason and I also had the pleasure of saying hello to Kardshark…( I think we embarrassed him)

Lol! I thought I heard someone call my names several times…Each time I looked around for my dad or my brother but I didn’t see them. Finally I heard my dad yell “Brent! Someones calling your name!” That’s when I felt embarassed!

Brent

Gosh, sorry I missed meeting you guys. I took Larry Nugent’s workshop, along with Kardshark.

Great report, Jason. The only thing I would add is how much I enjoyed the group of young players that performed along with the heavyweights at the Saturday night concert. I think they were all around 18 or 19, and all but the piper were local. I think he was from Chicago. Hearing kids that young playing that well was a real pleasure, even if it’s a little discouraging for us struggling old guys.

I’m afraid I fell victim to the whistle display at Music Folk and came away with a lovely “A” Water Weasel.

Great weekend, overall.

I was making money playing on the street
Saturday, so I didn’t get to the festival
until late afternoon. But I had a grand
time playing Mike Burke’s whistles and
talking with him.
His whistles seem to me to get better each year. Only the thought of my wife’s
left hook stopped me from buying one.

Got to McGurk’s late Sun aft and heard
some amazing music from Grey,Skelton,
and some great fiddlers. There are three
large rooms and a different session was
going on in each of them. I don’t get
to hear much stuff like this, except on
CDs, so it made an impression. A fellow
next to me at one session was playing
a silver D copeland from 92 and let me
play it–lovely, less shrill than my
nickel.

These are great festivals, the genuine
article. Glad to hear people found
Music Folk, which is the best
venue for whistles in the region–
definitely worth a visit.

Gosh, sorry I missed meeting you guys. I took Larry Nugent’s workshop, along with Kardshark.

How was Larry’s workshop?

Great report, Jason. The only thing I would add is how much I enjoyed the group of young players that performed along with the heavyweights at the Saturday night concert. I think they were all around 18 or 19, and all but the piper were local. I think he was from Chicago. Hearing kids that young playing that well was a real pleasure, even if it’s a little discouraging for us struggling old guys.

There’s no doubt that they were fantastic, and I certainly didn’t mean to marginalize their contribution to Saturday night. What’s amazing to me is that they easily held their own on stage with all the older players. They were very professional.

Also, I can totaly understand those feelings of discouragement =). I don’t get discouraged as much as I get frustrated that I didn’t get involved in my irish heritage earlier (like 13 instead of 30 =). If you read Chris Weddle’s bio (he’s the Bodhran player) it really shows how amazing those young players are, and what can be accomplished if you expose kids to things other than TV at a young age (Chris’ bio is at http://www.tionol.org/teachers.html#criswedel).

I’m afraid I fell victim to the whistle display at Music Folk and came away with a lovely “A” Water Weasel.

Great weekend, overall.

Ah yes, I find that I spend way to much time and resources (ie: money =) at that shop. It’s the dark supplier for my WhoA problem.

Have a good one.

lol jason…and do you realize you are not all THAT far from …THE WHISTLE SHOP??

On 2002-04-16 22:54, dd wrote:
lol jason…and do you realize you are not all THAT far from …THE WHISTLE SHOP??

Against my better judgement…

What’s “The Whistle Shop”?

On 2002-04-15 16:11, Jason Burke wrote:
Saturday was spent in intermediate whistle workshop with Grey Larsen. Grey was a fantasic teacher who focused more on technique than simply learning new tunes (which was good because I had trouble enough with the tune he was using to illustrate his ornamentation - The Walls of Liscarrol). His approach to cutting was very unique (he cuts, not with the note like most books teach, but instead with the note above, so a cut on G is done with A and the G finger stays in place), and I found it very useful and a bit quicker in some places (perhaps the quickness has more to do with my finger dexterity, or lack of it =).

As far as I know, most people cut this way. At least, that’s how I learned, and I haven’t noticed many people doing anything else.

Has anyone heard who won the Mike Burke whistle?

J

I havent heard. But…I did send that in as a suggestion on the survey they sent out.

The whistle shop…is…a FABULOUS store with lots and lots and lots of whistles. Its in Bloomington Ill, so…KIND of local and they have a great website. Check out the buying a whistle on the internet links.

On 2002-04-17 17:36, colomon wrote:

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As far as I know, most people cut this way. At least, that’s how I learned, and I haven’t noticed many people doing anything else.
Well, a number of the tutorials teach it different, cutting with a higher note than Gray taught us. AND most of the others in the class were taught that also. Guess it depends on who and where ya learn.

On 2002-04-17 18:17, John-N wrote:
Has anyone heard who won the Mike Burke whistle?

I did. :slight_smile:
Got an email from the organizer on Tuesday telling me I won and to call Mike. We’ve traded emails, and it looks like he has a Low G in stock.
(“Yes dear, I won a drawing! And I only have to pay $60 to get the whistle!! Yes, I know I can get a whistle for $10 from the store around the corner - this is different!!”) :slight_smile:

Rats! I had my eye on one of his really nice high Eb Brass Pros.

Oh WhoA is me!

:cry:

On 2002-04-17 15:35, Jason Burke wrote:
Against my better judgement…
What’s “The Whistle Shop”?

oooh…someplace I could spend hours in…
http://www.thewhistleshop.com

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On 2002-04-16 11:27, Jason Burke wrote:

How was Larry’s workshop?

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Sorry for the slow response – I’ve been traveling and had no access to a computer.

I got a LOT out of that workshop. Larry’s emphasis was constantly on playing with rock steady rhythm while creating something musically with the piece. Those are my words, not his (he teaches mostly by example), but that’s what I got from it. Along the way he demonstrated a lot of little techniques he uses, but the real point was to slow down until you can play a tune really solidly, and can create something interesting along the way, before worrying about speeding up.

The workshop was structured around learning a few tunes, which was all done by ear, but the real benefit was all the stuff that came up as we worked on the tunes. One tune we learned, which I thought was particularly interesting, was called “Sport”. It’s been recorded by Peadar O’Riada. Maybe O’Riada wrote it – I’m not sure. Neat little tune.

The workshops there go on all day, which can be pretty long, but I thought it was well worth it.

Anyone else have any reaction?

–Jay

CONGRATS on the BURKE whistle. I have a soprano d and a low d…you will LOVE it.