Syn Low D - some comments

The appearance of a message from me on these forums probably surpises some of the “Fathers” (and Mothers) of the forums (you know who you are) who have by now almost forgotten I existed; more recent members may be wondering who the heck I am… Anyway, I’ve never been all that far away from the forums which have such a special place in Whistledom. Greetings to you all, and my best wishes, as always. Now on to the meat of this post…

I recently had the good fortune to acquire one of Erle Bartlett’s low D Syn whistles. I understand that there has been interest in this whistle (of course) but owners are relatively thin on the ground and very little feedback about the whistle has been given to those who are interested in learning more. So, I want to share some of my impressions of the whistle with you all.

First of all, the whistle looks great with its red anodized finish and black Delrin mouthpiece. I’ve never owned a red whistle before and never had a yearning for one… Appearance is probably a minor issue for most players - I’ve always considered myself to be of that persuasion - but a nice-looking whistle is easier to love, and this whistle deserves to be loved.

The finger stretch required to play the Syn is undoubtedly a bit of a challenge to someone used to playing low whistles of, say, the Overton variety and this for me is the one negative aspect of this whistle. Both hands are affected. However, after spending a bit of time playing it, your hands do make the adjustment. I have to say that my own hands are not large but I am still able to manage this whistle (though I continue to have a bit of a problem playing at fast tempos and accurately executing ornamentation on some notes). You shouldn’t necessarily let the hole spacing be a deal breaker because everything else about the whistle is superb and the hole positioning no doubt helps the whistle’s excellent tuning right across both octaves. I should also mention the size of the tone holes - they are quite large and this might add to playing problems for some people but it does make it surprisingly easy to half-hole and hit those accidentals (though hopefully not accidentally!)

The tone of the Syn is for me a big part of its appeal. Such preferences are always subjective, of course, and I’m sure not everyone will like it as I do but my own musical sensibilities tell me that the tone of this whistle is exceptionally good. It is full-bodied, rounded, and possesses a lovely sweetness.

The good design of the Syn provides the player with a very pleasant surprise - the breath volume requirements for playing this whistle are amazingly small. Low whistles usually take a fair amount of breath but this one takes less breath than quite a few high whistles do, and that’s not an exaggeration. It’s possible to play long phrases without the need to take a breath - when other whistles might leave you gasping for breath the Syn allows you to keep the notes coming. Also, the Syn has a good back pressure when playing and you can really lean into it and make it sing out.

All in all, I think the whistle is fabulous; a real pro low whistle. I’ve recorded a tune using the Syn and put it on my web site and those interested in taking a listen can find it here: www.micksvirtualwhistle.net/whistle/ . It’s the one with the picture of the red whistle next to it. :slight_smile:

There is a small amount of added reverb on this recording but if anyone would like to hear the recording without the reverb, please feel free to ask me for it.

Anyway, that’s about it… I hope my comments are of some use. I’m not sure I’ve added anything new, and I’ve probably missed saying something really important. If I have, please give me a gentle nudge and I’ll try and put it right. :slight_smile:

Mick

I have read that Syn whistles are very good. I bet if they were more expensive they would probably sell better. Go figure. :confused:

I visited your site. Great tunes and info. Thank you, Mick.

Thanks, CranberryDog.

I’ve been lucky enough to try out a few Syn whistles and I’ve liked all of them so far. I have a Black Diamond too which, it seems, people either love or hate. I definitely fall into the former category - I just wish the very highest notes didn’t need pushing quite as much as they do but I like the tone and they way the whistle responds to confident playing.

The Syn low D is superb and I’m sure that it could be much more popular than it is…but whistle players need to try one first and then maybe they will be convinced, as I was. Seeing/hearing/playing is believing. :slight_smile:

And yes, price has an odd effect on the way we perceive true worth. The highest-priced-must-be-best point of view is not always correct. To cite an example, the whistles of Fred Rose are, in my opinion, way, way underpriced. I know Fred and I know how much work he puts into each and every one of his whistles. That guy is probably working for less than people are getting on basic minimum pay over here! I don’t know if buyers realise what a good deal they are getting when they buy his whistles. If he charged twice as much as he does then his stature in the whistle world would probably greatly increase…maybe the same could be said about Erle Bartlett?

Thanks for the review and sound clip. I have been curious about these whistles, but as you pointed out, so far there hasn’t been a lot of information out there from players.

Are the finger stretch & tone hole size similar to those of a Susato Low D?

Thanks for the review Mick, I was really trying to achieve that high backpressure/low breath requirement thing to make them play more like a high whistle. If you found that, then I’m hitting the mark.
There’s not much I can do about the finger stretch apart from saying that it does become easier with time. I have elected to go with a wide bore body, so a comparison with a Howard is probably closer to the mark than comparison to a suzato, I think the stretch thing is a combination of distance and bore size. The next time I’m in Mitch’s Ozwhistle shop, I’ll do a side by side comparison with some of the whistles he’s got there (if he doesn’t beat me to it).
cheers!

Sounded wonderful on the clip, too. After listening through it a few times, I tried playing along with several different instruments. I couldn’t get close to the level of expressiveness that Mick managed on the Syn until I switched from whistle to flute. (And yes, I am allowing for the added reverb)

The price is affordable, too. ($140 US at Gaelic Crossings - couldn’t find any other US distributor). If I didn’t already have own a somewhat-underplayed Howard Low D and a couple of good flutes I’d order one today. As it is, I’m still tempted - it sounds like Erle has hit exactly what I’d like in a Low D.

Any chance of a Low F model?

Well, I’m sold. :smiley:

Quick question: can you cross-finger Cnat as 0XX000 on the low D? I find that I need to use 0XXXX0 or 0XXX0X to get it spot on with my Syn high whistles…

If you scroll down a ways you will find a new condition Syn Low D for $130…tempting.

Sorry for taking so long to get back on this but I’ve been very busy for a few days.

bdh, the OXXOOO cross fingering for C natural sounds very acceptable to me. There is a very slight fall in tone if you finger OXXXOX and that too sounds very good to me - probably a bit of a stronger note with that fingering which you can use to get the C natural to sing out with a bit more volume. Neither cross fingering sounds out of tune when played in the context of a tune. I should point out too that it is very easy to hit a good-sounding C natural by half-holing the B tone hole.

Thanks Mick. :slight_smile: