Switching Keys with ABC

I’m trying to get “Star of the Country Down” sheet music in D over at The Session.

Would I take the information from this page (under the “ABC” tab)…

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/4320

and post that information to this page

http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html

Then change the “K: Emin” to “K: D”, and click “submit”?

I have never seen ABC notation or even heard of the concept, so this all may be laughably simplistic. If so, I deserve the wrath of your wit, and then maybe a little help :slight_smile:

No, you can’t just change the K: key. You have to transpose the notes of the entire tune. There are a few online sites that can do that. Here’s one:

http://www.8ung.at/abctransposer/index.html

Copy in the original K:Em ABC, transpose it down, then copy the K:Dm (not K:D) result and paste it over at Concertina.net.

Here’s another, that will also render the ABC to dots:

http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/abcconvert.php

Same idea … Paste in the original, set the Transpose drop-down to “Down 2 Semitones”, hit Submit.

Would you be doing this to play the tune on a D whistle? Or is there another thought motivating you?

Feadoggie

Hope not. :wink:

Yes - I’m trying to be a faithful student of Ryan Duns’ tutorial, and needed the sheet music on this one :slight_smile:

Go ahead, Feadoggie … you explain it … :slight_smile:

:blush: Of course I wasn’t! Man, what kind of guy would do that!

But, just in case a newbie comes along who needs help, what would he need to do to get that ABC right to play on his D whistle? This is strictly for his/her sake…

:smiley:

Of course, we understand. You have this friend who wants to play … :laughing:

Since Feadoggie has temporarily left the building …

Don’t confuse the key of the tune with the key of the whistle. E minor tunes, like most ITM tunes, are normally played as-is on a D whistle. So you don’t need to change a thing. You don’t need to transpose the tune. You shouldn’t transpose the tune.

Well, sort of. In this case, the tune dips below the range of the whistle (which means that this setting is fiddle-oriented). So you need to fudge the notes below D by changing the melody of the A part slightly:

GF|E2E2 E2DE|G2G2 A2GA|B2AG E2DE|D6 GF|
E2E2 E2DE|G2G2 A2GA|B2AG E2E2|E6||

Or you can transpose the whole tune up to A minor (K:Am) or B minor (K:Bm), which will then keep the original setting within the range of the whistle without fudging.

Thanks, MTGuru. :smiley:

Feadoggie

Thank you very much - that helps!. And I will make sure my friend (poor soul) gets this information. :slight_smile:

E minor - same notes as G major.
B minor - same notes as D major.
D whistle plays all four.

19 words, uh, 22 words, oops…

I downloaded all of the videos directly from YouTube, and so I completely missed these pages. That’s exactly what I need. Thanks Feadoggie.

Tell them we wish them well.

Feadoggie

hi… i think i might know why your friend was concerned about transposing the sheet music for this song; i did this tutorial… he’s not playing the song according to the sheet music he posted to his blog. if you read the posts under his blog page you’ll see people complaining that the sheet music does not match the song as he plays it; then “hissing sid” points out that you can get the correct notation from an online book. i went and checked it out; it’s correct (except for an e that he plays as a d, but if you listen and play along you’ll hear it). if you pm me your email addr i can send you a pdf.

ok… then, why did none of you guys post these websites when i asked a question about transposing? :boggle: where’s Denny? i need to make a chart…

:slight_smile:

The last time I saw him he was off to make a leopard…

hi…

so i checked this in my new copy of Mr. Larsen’s whistle and flute book, and he says you can play D maj, B min, G maj, E min, and A maj on a d whistle. i get that; if you can cross-finger a c# down to get a g maj scale, then i don’t see why you couldn’t cross-finger (or half-hole?) the g up to g# to get an A maj scale.

but following this maj min pattern (G and E, D and B), then why didn’t he include F# min? isn’t that the minor for A maj? so if you can play A maj on a d whistle, then wouldn’t you also be able to play F# minor?

maybe that’s just a weird key no one uses in ITM… ?

You can. I do. :slight_smile:

Yep.

Yep.

thanks :slight_smile: