# Sweetone C-nat troubles **URL:** \ **Category:** Whistle\ **Created:** [May 21, 2002, 11:08pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127 "2002-05-21T23:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kar](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/kar/32/211_2.png) [@Kar](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/Kar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 11:08pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/1 "2002-05-21T23:08:00Z")
I’m a beginning player; I’ve got two Sweetones (a C and D) and whenever I try the C-nat on the D (or the B-flat on the C), it sounds TERRIBLE. As is not correct. I’ve tried the following fingerings: OXX OOO (the “recommended” fingering) OXX OXO OXO XXX And nothing sounds right. I know almost everyone has a Sweetone and I’m wondering–is this just a function of the instrument or am I doing something wrong? Any suggestions? I know I could half-hole but I have a really hard time with that and am hoping there’s a cross-fingering I can use. Help! ---
**Author:** ![Cees](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/cees/32/7518_2.png) [@Cees](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/Cees)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 11:29pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/2 "2002-05-21T23:29:00Z")
I’ve never had any problem with my Sweetone D on the c-natural. Try this fingering, if you like: OXXXOX Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![fatveg](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/fatveg/32/212_2.png) [@fatveg](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/fatveg)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 12:03am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/3 "2002-05-22T00:03:00Z")
I’ve got the same problems with my Shaw D – I need to use 0xxxx0 to get a c-natural. On my Sweetone C it isn’t so bad, 0xx000 is close enough for government work, although it sounds a little sharp to me. I’m tempted to move towards half-holing for c-nat. While I was playing I found this great free [electronic tuner](http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/16752.html) which you might want to play with. The depressing thing is how far out all of my whistles are… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weekenders](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@The\_Weekenders](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/The_Weekenders)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/4 "2002-05-22T00:30:00Z")
I suggested this before but noone commented: oxxoxx. I use this all the time on my Burkes and it sounds great The roll is oxxoxx / oxxxxx/oxxoxx/xxxoxx/oxxoxx This came from LE McCullough’s old Tutor book with the white cover. ---
**Author:** ![peeplj](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/peeplj/32/161_2.png) [@peeplj](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/peeplj)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/5 "2002-05-22T02:25:00Z")
Try putting some scotch tape over about the upper fourth of the highest tone hole on the whistle. This should bring the C-natural down into pitch with the o x x | o o o fingering, without flattening C-sharp too much. –James [http://www.flutesite.com](http://www.flutesite.com) ---
**Author:** ![csharpd](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e47c2d/32.png) [@csharpd](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/csharpd)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/6 "2002-05-22T03:21:00Z")
I’m happy with OXX OXX for the first C on my Sweetone D, and OXX XXO for the high C. ---
**Author:** ![Kar](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/kar/32/211_2.png) [@Kar](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/Kar)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 5:07pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/7 "2002-05-23T17:07:00Z")
Thanks, everyone. I’ve tried some of the new fingerings and they do sound a little bit better. ---
**Author:** ![EricWingler](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/ericwingler/32/80_2.png) [@EricWingler](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/EricWingler)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 12:17pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/8 "2002-05-24T12:17:00Z")
I tried the scotch tape trick, and it worked beautifully. My Sweetone is the unpainted variety, so this makes me wonder if the pitch is affected by the lack of paint. Eric ---
**Author:** ![peeplj](https://chiffandfipplewww.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.chiffandfipple.com/peeplj/32/161_2.png) [@peeplj](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/u/peeplj)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 2:32pm UTC](https://www.chiffandfipple.com/t/sweetone-c-nat-troubles/4127/9 "2002-05-24T14:32:00Z")
I have one of the painted ones, and still find that I need the tape to make the “normal” c-natural fingering work. –James [http://www.flutesite.com](http://www.flutesite.com)