First of all, a big thank you to Bill Haneman and Chris Bayley for a very interesting and insightful lecture/demonstration of the Coyne set at the Stockholm music museum.
We are all very happy that the both of you, and Mike Hulme, took the time to participate and contribute to this historical (our very first) Swedish uilleann pipers gathering.
A spacial thanks to Stefan (aka Isle_of_Logs) for arranging the whole thing, and to all of you who participated.
It turned out to be a fantastic weekend and Iām already looking forward to see all of you (and others) again next year.
Can you post the pic of Chris standing over the Coyne set? Nice to get a sense of scale. Not that I donāt know what a huge set of pipes looks like! Had to save the movie to the olā hard drive to get it to play properly, too.
So the extra bass reg is a bit duff on the inside? Maybe the original owner just had to have a monster truck set. Did you guys find any stamps this time, too?
Iām sure Bill and Chris will make a presentation of this unique set of some sort, and I feel I better leave it to them so share their findings and conclusions.
It was a real treat to have the opertunity to see and hear this set at the museeum. The chanter that Bill plays in the begining of the video clip is actually the original, it was well in tune with a fantastic sound that is hard to do justice in a simple camera recording.
Iām sure Bill and Chris will make a presentation of this unique set of some sort, and I feel I better leave it to them so share their findings and conclusions.
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Iām with Marcus on this one. Bill and Chris will surely do some kind of presentation at the appr time. As for pics, Iāll try to put a few more on the web site mentioned by Marcus above
Cheers
Thanks Bill and Chris for the demonstration! And to Stefan for organizing the event! I couldnāt stay for the rest of the weekend unfortunately, but it was a treat just the same.
It was nice to see the Coyne set again. I have not seen it since Stefan Kayat and I took some pictures of it 11 years ago. And to get to listen to the old chanter was fantastic.
Thanks to you, Stefan, Jan, and Nick and the rest of the Museum staff for the hospitality.
I gave the clip a listen and no, the sound clip really doesnāt do the chanter justice (never mind the playing ). As Nick, one of the curators, was present with a digital recorder, Iāll see if some slightly better representation of the sound can be posted eventually. As the reed was acting a bit weak in the top hand for this chanter, I had to open it rather more than usual which also affected the tone somewhat, but it did sound much sweeter in person. It was a lovely surprise that by special arrangement we were allowed to put a reed into it and actually sound the chanter, and recording the resulting tuning adds a lot of value to the physical measurements.
All in all itās a beautiful set. The most unusual features, that is, the fourth and fifth regulators, are perhaps still a mystery - I think itās reasonably likely that they are not in the original configuration, but weāll have a better idea once the bore data can be pored over at leisure. The three āstandardā regulators and drones appear to be in original condition, except for the slide section of the baritone drone which is a painted replacement (but appears to be well made despite not being ebony, possibly a long time ago). Best of all, the chanter appears to be unaltered besides some moderate scalloping (or perhaps heavy wear) of the bottom hand toneholes.
Youāll have to wait for the report for detailed answers!
There were no working reeds in the set (there were two non-working reeds in the bass regs, but they were of modern origin). Only the chanter was sounded on this occasion, with a reed that was originally made for a reasonably close facsimile of an(other) original Coyne B chanter.
Virtually nothing is known of the provenance of this set, only the accession number and date.
Itās probably early Coyne, could possibly be very late Timothy Kenna, must wait for full analysis of the info. Stylistically it includes a number of āKenna-esqueā features.
Last November, Thomas Johnson indicated here that the museum purchased the set from Tony Bingham in 1981. Thomas later contacted Tony, who recalled very little about the instrument. I wonder if it would be worth asking Tony to look through any archived records he might have for additional information?
adding to this mystery: I saw the set in Uppsala Sweden 1977, when I wrote a short article about uilleann pipes for Swedish newspapers. It was said to be owned by the stockholm music museum already at that time.
Hi,
could you post any more close-up shots of the set? Actually, the old unfocused photos depict the set itself better , except the one you posted here directly.
Jan (aka Liraman) has put up some photos and clips
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Hi,
could you post any more close-up shots of the set? Actually, the old unfocused photos depict the set itself better :sniffle: , except the one you posted here directly.[/quote]
I have now added a note on the above site just to underline that this is NOT in any kind a report on the set, just a few pics and a clip I took on a very succesful UP meeting in Stockholm. Nor the pics or the sound from the clip do justice to this complex instrument.
For all questions on close ups or details, please contact Bailey/Haneman who are active on this forum.
Jan (aka Liraman) has put up some photos and clips
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Hi,
could you post any more close-up shots of the set? Actually, the old unfocused photos depict the set itself better :sniffle: , except the one you posted here directly.[/quote]
I have now added a note on the above site just to underline that this is NOT in any kind a report on the set, just a few pics and a clip I took on a very succesful UP meeting in Stockholm. Nor the pics or the sound from the clip do justice to this complex instrument.
For all questions on close ups or details, please contact Bailey/Haneman who are active on this forum.
There seem to be quite an interest in this set as I get request for detailed photos of various parts.
This thread was as Jan pointed out just to let you know that there now is an Uilleann pipers Club in Sweden, that wee have had our first meeting (tionol) and little about what we were doing that weekend.
When it comes to the Stockholm Kenna/Coyne set there are some very unique features regarding the set that cant be seen in the previous pictures by Olle GƤllmo and Stefan Kayat or the later by Tomas J as they were not allowed to take the set apart. We took some pictures during Billās and Chris presentation of the set but as both of them took the time and effort to come to Stockholm, spending three days to measure and document the set I strongly feel we all better give them some time to publish their findings first instead of stealing all the raisins
I got quite a few PMās regarding the video clip from the presentation that might deserve some clarification.
First, that fact we got the hear Bill play the chanter was a big, and pleasant, surprise to us all, it was nothing we had anticipated. Bill got an ok from the curator just a before the meeting started with only a few minutes to get the feel of the chanter and try out his own reed. As this was something unexpected we didnāt have a camcorder at hand and the video clip is recorded in video mode with a standard digital photo camera with limited audio capabilities.
Second, in the clip you can hear Chris talk about the ābore being roughā while the set and the chanter is in picture. Chris is here referring to the extra Bass regulator and not the chanter that had a bore in perfect condition according to Chris and Bill.
Iām sure where will be a lot more about this set with details, high resolution pictures and all when Bill and Chris are finished with their calculations and conclusions. We all just have to wait and give them some time. With a bit of wishful thinking this might lead to a new exhibition in the future, with a pro piper playing the set
In all we had a great weekend gathering 10 out of the ~15 known uilleann pipers in Sweden. Hopefully now when a pipers Club is being formed we will have a better opportunity to invite more pipers and teachers to next years event.
Am surprised that its history is unknown as it looks like a very complex set. Surely an instument like this would have been made to be played and could hardly have gone un-noticed
Has either Bill or Chris received a request for a copy yet and if so what was the price tag
, except the one you posted here directly.