Still looking to buy a used hammy or Cotter

If anyone is up for selling their used Hammy e-mail me at Jdukes@cox.net I know I sould just get on his list but I am on Patricks list already and I need a flute for the meantime

I imagine you saw what Jessie’s sold for today…you’d be a lot better off getting on Hammy’s list.

Loren

By that I mean: All the good flutes seem to sell for more used than new.

Loren

Josh, I have a flute you might be interested in. I bought it in Doolin for about $600 and carried it very carefully through the West of Ireland. I later found out that the shopkeeper had overcharged me, but still…it’s a great flute. Every time I have thought of selling it, I have changed my mind. But anyway, it was made by Martin Doyle and, though it doesn’t have a metal tuning slide, it’s just as tunable as, say, a Water Weasel whistle. In fact, I think the lack of metal adds a richness to the sound. I have a boxwood Olwell flute without a tuning slide that sounds similarly rich. I would sell the flute for $500 including shipping. Here are a couple of pictures.

I swear…I don’t make my living from this stuff!

J

Josh (aka drummerboy) just narrowly missed winning Jessie’s Hammy on e-bay. That boy has it bad!

Dude - Just get on Hammy’s list.
Chris

And what the heck happened to the Copley I sold you for such a good price, eh?

Chris I told you the women has control over it. There is no arguing when it comes the the boss! Im sure some of you guys now what im talking about.

Jessie I am hesitent to take a chance on the Doyle because I have a trouble with many flutes producing a rich cound. The only flutes I have been succesful with are hammys,cotters and olwells.

:roll:
It’s cool. I’m just teasing you anyways.

I understand that. I see that you are in Milbrook, NY. I am in Woodstock. You and the lady could come over and try some flutes if you want.

Jessie

On 2002-09-23 11:16, drummerboy wrote:
Jessie I am hesitent to take a chance on the Doyle because I have a trouble with many flutes producing a rich cound. The only flutes I have been succesful with are hammys,cotters and olwells.

Hmm…

I swear I’m not trying to be abrasive here with the following comment: Perhaps the issue is you and not the flutes? I mean a player with a good lip can get a wonderfully rich sound out of most good flutes.

If Chris’ Copley was anything like mine, it should be capable of a Killer tone.

Still, I certainly understand wanting to have the flute that tickles your fancy, nothing at all wrong with that!

Ask yourself this though: Do you want to be the guy who can only sound good on his own flute, or do you want to be the sort of player who can pick up any flute and make it sound great? Seems to me if you simply go with the flute that’s easiest for you to get the best tone out of, you’ll end up being the latter. I say this from my own experience with my Olwell Pratten, which I found punishingly difficult at first - It was hard work getting it to sound good, and there were times I wanted to quit it. However now my embouchure is far more effective than it was pre Olwell.

Well, that’s just been my experience anyway.

Loren

Loren makes an excellent point here.
Chris

The Copley has a great tone. The problem is it is judys and not mine. She liked it so much I let her have it. Of course I can play it when I want but I need my own. Anyway. Jessie I need to update my info because I actualy live in D.C. My parents live in Millbrook. I was so bummed to see that I lost out on the Bidding yesterday, Olwell. My quest pushes on.:cry:

I think Drummerboy was just being tactful. He has a concept of the tonal quality of the flute he wants, and is trying to make that happen. Believe me, chops are not an issue(I’m a sometime session-mate of his).

I don’t understand why having to work harder for the sound you want would be considered to be a positive attribute for an instrument. That sounds like a macho thing to me. To sound great on your chosen flute is a fine thing - not to be sneered at, “Oh, he can only play his OWN flute.” Yuk!

Heather M.

:laughing:
Fair play to you both!
I get it now… the woman stole the Copley!
Sorry to second guess you here.
Best,
Chris

Yes, I’ve already heard that Josh is no beginner - Michael E. mentioned that in a previous post (different thread), and I don’t doubt it for a minute. However, having good hands, or having a great lip, are entirely differnt things - It’s easy enough to have one without the other, as they are entirely different skill sets, so was only suggesting that perhaps it’s a lip issue.

Regarding the second part of your post Heather - It’s not about being macho at all: Hey, I’m all for not having to work any harder than necessary to attain a given result, however, playing a flute that forces you to develope a more focused and better controlled embouchure is a great help in the long run. No offense, but your comment leads me to believe that you haven’t experienced this for yourself yet. However, I’ll put money down that eventually you will.

Anyway, forget I brought the whole thing up. Josh wants what he wants, and there’s nothing at all wrong with that. I was just trying to provide a different perspective, but this isn’t worth wasting bandwidth on.

Josh man, I honestly hope you can lay your hands on exactly what you’re looking for, hopefully something will turn up soon - Good luck with the search.

Loren

Loren - Josh has both great hands AND lips, and I know Judy won’t get mad at me for saying so!

Regarding my experience, I have a flute performance degree, and have been playing for over 30 years, including a fair amount of professional work. Sorry - you guessed wrong!

Heather M.

Doh! :laughing:

On 2002-09-23 14:51, hmartley wrote:
Loren - Josh has both great hands AND lips, and I know Judy won’t get mad at me for saying so!

Regarding my experience, I have a flute performance degree, and have been playing for over 30 years, including a fair amount of professional work. Sorry - you guessed wrong!

Heather M.

Heather,

My guess was not about your playing ability, or what degrees you have, my guess was about whether you’ve had the experience of going from an easy to play wooden flute to a very unforgiving wooden flute. So let me rephrase:

  1. Do you play with the standard IR Trad type embouchure or the classical type embouchure?

More importantly,

  1. How’s your tone on a Pratten?

I’m just wondering if you’ve had the particular experience I’m talking about - it’s quite conceivable that a classically trained flute player might not.

Loren