Talasiga wrote…You cannae even get my name right. So much for your respect for culture and tradition.
Sound familiar? :roll:
I wrote… I did not say the above quote at all,so perleez do not put words into my mouth…especially wrong ones
Sound familiar?.. :roll:
Talasig wrote… The message I am getting both crudely and nicely
Sound familiar?.. :roll:
Talasiga I would have preferred an acknowledgement of ye misreading my words ,as ye have also done with Pat..to a throwaway drop o my name which looks a tad sarcastic to mine eyes…I also believe Dave has a good point inasmuch ye might be better off with someone playing accompaniement for ye…
**Pat…**I came onto this thread full blown when Morten mentioned super proficient pipers and wasnae particularly interested one way or the other before that ,whether Talasig or anyone else for that matter sang or not…other than I thought it wasnae a regular sort o thing.. and probably the wrong reason to learn the pipes(but that is my opinion only)
Tommy Cannon aka All Ireland Supreme Bard of the last Fleadh at Clonmel does not figure in my short list,or even long list of super efficient pipers…
Anyways I’m bored with this subject… Happy Ne’er to ye all
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam
Please Uilliam - the man asked a simple question, and I answered what I had experienced, even provided an example. So please leave me out of your pointless discussion…
Well I too have heard Tomas singing and playing–more like BB King’s blues technique–he could never sing and play at the same time as well.
But in answer to your question, the big question, NO. Narking is a major part of the piping culture.
And as Pat said, uh, it’s all about the culture whether you like it or not. Or whether you said anything about liking it or not. But what nobody has said yet is, you’re going to have to spend a thousand dollars US to get a decent practice set just to tootle your few notes, and then become an expert in some of the most finicky reeds on earth on top of that. All things considered, a harmonium makes a more reliable drone anyway.
I read these words of yours as meaning that anyone who just plays chords on an instrument is not really playing it and you even gave the guitar as an example. Would you like someone to conduct a poll on what they understand your point to mean?
C,… 'C’ocobolo chanter…right you are! Happy New Year back at you, and thank you, I am sure I will! Of course, new regs mean new frustrations, but then I’ve always been a glutton for punishment.
I still remember the vet’s bill from 10 years ago for each of my tom cats: £1 for the operation and £19 for the anaesthetic - I didn’t query it… would you be willing to hold one down?
I digress… I’d quite like to hear you have a go at the piping while singing, Joseph, in public posting or private. I’m just wondering myself which song I should try it with - maybe Danny Boy? Course some pipers prolly spit on the ground every time that name gets mentioned but I like it. And as I play primarily for my own enjoyment…
And as for vamping, I fingerpick the geetar when I sing so why not pipe a (counter?) melody?
Well if ye want to be pedantic re read…everyone else can go to sleep…
The pipes are a melody instrument.
Playing a chord on the pipes is not playing a melody…
Therefore ye are not really playing THE PIPES…so far so good…I think ye missed the key phrase This isnae singing and playing the pipes strictly speaking is it?
I said that Faulkner was playing ( the pipes)and singing and gave an example of singing and playing chords on a guitar…in order to exemplify the similarity in what he was doing as opposed to playing the pipes (a melody that is)
I did not say that playing chords on the guitar was not playing I was giving an example of style!!Although I do think there is a lot more to playing the guitar well than strumming along with chords..
There I hope that clears it up ..if ye want to have a poll go ahead
MortenSo please leave me out of your pointless discussion…Why??It was ye that got me listening to the song in the 1st place and I think ye were refuting the point I was making, that it isnae all that common to sing and play(melody),at the same time.. so ye can’t duck out of it that easily…oh and I’m sorry for saying that it was yerself that mentioned super proficient pipers…that honour belongs to Meir
GalegoMan quote"And don’t forget “The praties are dug and the frost is all over” from master Seamus Ennis, of course! He is a good uilleann piper too"quote
I just listened to Seamus singing and “playing” the above…
methinks your havin a laugh …
he does indeed play the melody of the tune…then he stops playing the melody and sings the song…but, and here is the rub ,without the chanter..just dronal accompaniement…
so that kinda brings us full loop back to…
Morten again …sorry Morten..
I entirely agree with ye that this is a pointless discussion in fact I would go further and say that this is an entirely pointless discussion
OK everyone,ye can all wake up now,my ramblings for 2004 are nearly over.Before the bells,I would like to thank everyone who has shared on the forum for the past year,sometimes entertaining,sometimes a bit..well er..well nuff said…(meself included by the way)..
Look forward to hearing frae all o ye in 2005 and happy pipering/singing/bodhran bashing/or whatever gets ye sooo emotional…
take care all
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam
Singing along and playing the uilleann pipes is no big deal if you pick the right tune and can sing in the range of the pipe’s tuning. I sing and play the song “She moved through the fair” which is easy enough. You can play the melody whilst singing or/and just use the drones whilst singing the verses, or just use the drones, and then play something on the chanter inbetween the verses. “Hard times”, “Saucy sailor lad”, or “Newry Town” are also a couple of tunes that you can sing and play the uilleann pipes to. I suppose if you’re playing a D set then a loud chanter could be a problem, volume wise whilst singing unless you posess a stout pair of lungs. It’s hard to sing though, and play the flute at the same time.
I sat down and recorded Cold Blow and the Rainy Night, and have sent it off to Tony Higgins at Clips and Snips. It isn’t the best of recordings, but it is an example of singing while playing the Uilleann Pipes. If anybody is interested in hearing it before it is posted on C&S, pm me your email address and I will send you the mp3 recording of it.
Helo Joseph.is this the first post o the New year from yerself?.
I’m up for it,I’ll send ye a PM…
I will now turn my hand to being a critic!!!
Are ye playing chordal? or melody?a mixture of both perhaps?
Would it be in the Seamus Ennis style o uilleann singing or the James Faulkner style that is? I ask these pertinent questions to assist me with my critique which I will submit to the Musical Express Folkie Section.I expect the usual backhander for a glowing exposé
Happy New Year
Uilliam
Bloody hell Joe..that was quick,do ye not sleep over there…?Thanx for the preview which is appreciated…
“An interesting choice confidently played and sung.Joseph uses a combination of Ennis(dronal and song) then Smith(melody and song) which works very well in this traditional idiom.I expect Joseph E Smith is a name we will hear more of this year…ends”
There ye go Joe that’ll be $50 perleez…
Just in case any o ye thought I was against singing and playing ye got me all wrang… Its still an entirely pointless discussion tho.
Cheers Joe…now get some sleep…
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam
Let me tell you something, bendeco. You have unsteady bass drone, I’ll take it away from you and stick it up your ass and pull the trigger till it goes “click”.
Francie was a good piper, and a good man. He was. . . He was one of us.
He was a man who loved the outdoors, and piping, and as a surfer explored the beaches of Northern Ireland from Dunglow to Kilkeel. And he was an avid singer. And a good friend. He died–he died as so many
of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom you took him, Lord.
As you took so many bright flowering young men, at Khe San and Lan Doc
and Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And Francie too. Francie who. . . who loved bowling.
does not figure in my short list,or even long list of super efficient pipers… 
..if ye want to have a poll go ahead 
