http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16226&item=934379275
…???
W.O.W. ( !! )
A tiger? In India?
Can this be real? Can I have it? I was just going to go and maybe purchase a half set, but a Rowsome… wow.
Mark
hunting , tigers,. (..).
[ This Message was edited by: tok on 2002-12-31 01:46 ]
[ This Message was edited by: tok on 2002-12-31 01:55 ]
Hey…what’s all the excitement about…it’s just an old stick.
A blackthorn stick . tickity, tok .
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[ This Message was edited by: tok on 2002-12-31 04:03 ]
does anyone know how many chanters rowsome made?
i find this ad strange - if anyone knew that they had something as unique as a rowsome set they’d know exactly how much they wanted for it and would sell it through NPU -
is there any chance that this is a completely nondescript chanter with a misleading stamp on it (I’m not suggesting that the seller would knowingly sell on a fake, but it’s odd that the chanter is advertised as being stamped by Leo Rowsome, whilst it’s not actually stated that it was definately made by him)
I suppose it’s possible that’s it’s a genuine one that’s come into the hands of someone out of touch witht he piping world
[ This Message was edited by: seanny on 2002-12-31 11:34 ]
By the looks of it it is is definitely a Rowsome set, the whole thing looks pretty genuine.
Rowsome sets are hardly unique, he was very much the only pipemaker for a very long time and there are heaps of his chanters and practice sets floating about.
Your man doesn’t need to be out of touch with the piping world, Geoff Wooff gave me a Rowsome chanter five years ago, I returned ‘The Thing’[as we referred to it most of the time] after a while, it was a relief to have it out of the house.
It all looks like L.Rowsome’s work to me. Though the top/finial on the cap looks odd.
As Peter said. They’re not as rare as people think. I’ve seen many more Rowsome sets (practice to full) come up for sale than say Wooff, Childress, Taylor or other sets.
That said, I like the sound of a Rowsome. Unfortunately they’re extremely quirky and sometimes difficult to reed. Keep in mind Paddy Keenan switched from his quirky Rowsome to a modern maker. The reason? Tone/tuning stability and the lack of quirks.
Dionys
[ This Message was edited by: dionys on 2002-12-31 18:59 ]
I agree with Peter.I’ve come across two of them in the past couple o years and BOTH of them played sharp.I think it is possible(theory only) that he may have been tuning them to his harmonium which if it was in the American Orchestral pitch as opposed to the
European Orchestral Pitch would account for this.Anyways as Peter said there must be loads of them out there.On one of the chanters he had his name stamped at the throat and at about the F note hole,I suppose that was in case anyone snapped it in half!!!
Yeah, you guys really don’t want to bid on this..yeah that’s the ticket…what’s that furtive bidding?..Oh no not me. 
Marc
On 2002-12-31 12:47, Dionys wrote:
Keep in mind Patty Keenan switched from his quirky Rowsome to a modern maker. The reason? Tone/tuning stability and the lack of quirks.Dionys
Keep also in mind Keenan said in an interview with the Piper’s review that he rigurously altered his chanter when he was around 14 years old, so that wasn’t your typical Rowsome chanter anymore.
Offcourse I was a bit contrary quoting the Rowsome chanter gift I returned. That was a bottom of the range practice chanter that was not very well made. A pupil of mine has a Leo chanter on a Willie Rowsome which was reeded by a friend of mine, Rolf Knusel. I asked him to bring a reed for it, he put it in and it was perfect, it can be doen if you are a good reedmaker and know how to match the style of reed to the chanter. No need to enlarge the holes or anything. Anyhow, that dig out of the way, that particular chanter was hand picked by Sean Reid during the 50s and it has some nice characteristics [for a Leo, things are relative]and sounds very similar to Liam Flynn’s. It’s very sharp though as most of them are and fitting it to concert pitch makes it more quirky than it is now.
On 2002-12-31 12:47, Dionys wrote:
Keep in mind Patty Keenan…
That’s Paddy’s sister right?
Patrick.
For its age , It does not look like it has been played much . Mabey its a keeper , I have played some Rowsome chanters that practically play themselves .
Jim, the one who’s selling this Rowsome chanter, sent me some more pictures of it this morning, esp. of the fingerholes. It looks genuine to me. I’d pass them on, but the files were HUGE, like about 600KB ea! So, ask him to send you the pics instead.
I don’t think he’d mind me passing on his email address since he is trying to sell it. jimwalkerdean@shaw.ca (careful mrs. kindergarten)
Re. Paddy Keenan’s chanter and set, I recently read somewhere that even though he’s using his new Williams set, he’s still prefering his old chanter because he hasn’t found the right reed combination yet for his new one (that he likes anyway).
I’ve never heard any “recordings” of his old chanter that really hinted at it having a problem (concerts might be different), in fact, I dare say, if most of us could experience what he’s experiencing with his reed/chanter combination, I bet we’d gladly trade ours for his in a flash and go sleepless for days thinking how we have settled for such hard playing stuff for so long (no wonder it takes 21 years)! What he’s experincing can only be imagined by most of us I think, though there are days when I feel I know, but I’ll bet he’d still politely set mine aside! Whoever said (Tom?)that ‘some Rowsome’s almost play themselves’ might be right..would be nice to know the difference!
Yes, it is tom , I think paddy plays his pipes with a strong pressure and If he presses hard enough on the bag they get quietier , thats what he told me , If he eases off on the bag pressure , the reeds get louder , somthing like that ,
[ This Message was edited by: tok on 2002-12-31 20:28 ]
Just to point out wear & tear (tok). It looks like it’s been played a lot (which isn’t a bad thing at all), and has more wear than some of the Rowsomes I’ve played. The wind cap is worn through to the brass in some locations and the blowpipe is also quite worn (you can see it in the Ebay picture). Again, all relatively unimportant things.
Dionys
Yes ,not a bad thing , rust wears more than use , HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL !!
[ This Message was edited by: tok on 2003-01-01 04:27 ]
Paddy K used (uses?) a rubber bag (on his old set it was a piece of truck inner tube). That allowed him to overinflate, so that very little elbow pressure was needed on the bag.
How much do you think that this set will sell for? Any guesses? Any recent comps?