I love my generations don’t get me wrong, and I would and will play them forever, but I’ve got money in my pockets just waiting to get spent(Been called into work on my days off a little too often)and my D was exeptionally tempermental and quiet today. So I would like to know which high end whistle sounds almost identical or very close to the gen only louder and more stable that I can go out and blow my money on. Thanks for you help.
Jack Murphy
I was looking for a whistle with the qualities you mention too, but so far I haven’t played a high end whistle that sounds like a Gen, save perhaps the Sindt. But even so, I think the Gens carry better than a Sindt though the latter may be more stable/consistant quality wise.
If I need a louder whistle than a Generation, I’d go for a Susato. Susatos sound very different from Generations and some people hate the sound. But no whistle cuts the session like a Susato.
My Overton high D is pretty loud too, except that it is very sensitive to surrounding temperature. Often I get a weak sound or no sound if I play it in an air-conditioned room. Overtons don’t sound like Gens either. I’m contemplating sending back the whistle to Colin for some adjustments regarding the sensitivity thing.
Another whistle that I had a positive impression about is the Dixon brass tuning-slide whistle. The response is as good as a Gen, the sound carries slightly better, but the tone is a little sweeter, which is a minus for me.
[ This Message was edited by: Eldarion on 2002-06-23 04:00 ]
Hey Jack,
This went out to you as an email to you, but it got bounced back as undeliverable. So here, for everyone to read is my response:
If you ever make it down to Roseville I’ve got Susato, Sindt, Dixon, Chieftain, Busman (BrewerPaul) and Sweetheart soprano D’s that you can try out if you want. I’m here pretty much 24/7 taking care of my daughter. My guess is that you would be happiest with either the Sindt or the Dixon with brass tuning slide.
Last year I ordered a Sindt in D and A. The day after they arrived I ordered the rest of them…Eb, C, Bb. The waiting list is approx 8 months. The only problem with them is the C natural issue…OXX|OOO doesn’t work…I find that OXX|XOX works best or even better halfhole it. Other than that they are truly wonderful Generation type whistles.
The Dixon with brass tuning slide is an incredible whistle for the money. If you want to spend more on a whistle…just buy two of them. I’m not sure, but it may not be as in tune as other non-cheap whistles.
My Busman whistle is beautiful. It is Kingwood with stainless steel ferrules. It plays kinda like the Dixon, but with more authority and a little bit of chiff…and tuning is VERY good. Mine is currently in it’s “playing in” stage (or is it the other way around?), so it’s character varies from one day to the next, but I think is destined to become one of those “master craftsman” whistles.
Better yet, next Friday we’re going up to Tahoe and coming back the next afternoon. We always go up hwy 80 and come back hwy 50. Anyway, if you’re working we might be able to stop by for a few minutes on the way home and you could give the whistles a brief test…provided they would give you a short break! If you’re not going to be around I can just drop off the Susato for you to keep if you’re interested. It’s just too loud for my uses. It’s a laser etched Kildare soprano D…plays really well…but louder than my household is willing to put up with.
Take care,
Eric
[ This Message was edited by: vaporlock on 2002-06-23 05:26 ]
Be careful young Murphy…the dark path to high-end whistles may be one way. Save yourself and order 20 Generations, pick the best one and send the remainder to Anna Martinez for distribution anywhere around the globe…except California 
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I don’t think Dixon Brass slide whistles have a tuning problem. There may have been one with the ‘fixed’ D, at one time, but Tony works hard to get his product dead right. There have been some concerns about a slightly off-key ‘B’ on some Dixons, and Tony tells me that this is almost inevitable, given the need get the lower notes in tune. All it requires is altered breath requirements, to blow it in tune.
BTW, you’ll not get a better deal on Dixons, than at…
Steve
dont buy anything until you try a Burke! I think others will agree.
Somewhat presumptuous, lad.
No, I don’t agree.
My recommendation would be a Water weasel.
[ This Message was edited by: bob baksi on 2002-06-23 18:52 ]
Drummerboy, which burke and why would you recommend it? I’ve heard Paddy Maloney sometimes plays burkes and he’s a generation man. And is there a wait for burke whistles.
Bob baksi, what is good about the water weasels, I heard of them but I don’t really know anything about them.
And I think I will try a dixon and pick up a few more gen Ds and hope to get lucky. I have a Chieftain but I don’t consider it high end, but it is extremely loud, so I’m not looking for a real loud whistle just a good one with a traditional sound to it.
Jack Murphy
Murph:
I like the Sindt for a Generation-type whistle. Mary Bergin seems to have switched from Gen to Sindt. The Sindt is built to last a lifetime, and the slight weakness on the cross fingered c-nat doesn’t bother me much. It is a little cleaner and sweeter sounding than the Gen, though, so I wouldn’t recomment it if you like a rough and ready sound.
On 2002-06-23 10:50, drummerboy wrote:
dont buy anything until you try a Burke! I think others will agree.
Josh:
Didn’t you just last week mention being in the market for a Sindt?
Will we see you at DRAM?
Don’t you boys know any nice songs?
[ This Message was edited by: jim_mc on 2002-06-23 21:12 ]
Murphy stout
There have been a number of threads discussing the weasel family whistles, and I don;t want to repeat it all. Look for my comments under the current thread on Session Whistles. BrewerPaul knows Glenn Schultz well, studied from him, and is now making his own whistles. brewerPaul is probably the most knowledeable person to speak. From my non-technical perspective, the Schultz whistles all have “guts” without sacrificing the “almost but not pure” distinctive whistley sound. The note tones on all Glenn’s whistles that I’ve tried out (maybe 25 in total)are dead-on. Glenn is a joy to deal with, and will assist in anyway he can.