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Regardless of my political opinions about Mr. Bush, I thought the poems were great. Not because of their artistic merit, but because of their intent.
It doesn’t matter that it’s good poetry or bad poetry, what matters is that he took the time to say something more than normal conversation. For me, in a loving relationship, each has a responsibility, to take the time to say something that is more that just conversation to the other.
I know I stand in a very very very large crowd of men who have written bad poetry to their loves. It is amazing that it touches them so.
Geez, Dale, are you some kind of sado-masochist?
(and for you more serious folk, that was a Joke, no offense to his imperial Undisputedness intended! )
Robin
What’s wrong with being a sado masochist? I hear Nano…uh..nevermind.
On Rush Limbaugh, what he said about the media and black quarterbacks is true. When the Redskins won the Super Bowl with Doug Williams as QB, the media fell all over itself trumpeting the racial angle - there is still a lot of that attitude “the first black guy do do this, the first black guy to do that”. We will have truly achieved equality when nobody gives a rat’s ass what color the QB is. Limbaugh’s mistake, which I think was pretty stupid on his part, was to use ESPN as a forum to discuss social topics instead of just sticking to football. If I were ESPN I would have canned him too.
As far as his possible drug use, if it is true then he has repeatedly broken the law and committed felonies. I listen to Rush a lot and enjoy his show, but if the drug charges are true he will get no sympathy and understanding from me. I can’t on one hand say that Bill Clinton has broken the law and should not have been president, then turn around and give Limbaugh a pass. Limbaugh has repeatedly stressed that the constitution and the law of the land should be followed, for him to turn around and disregard the law himself would be utter hypocrisy. I can only hope the charges are BS, we are talking about the Enquirer, you know.
We will never achieve true equality as long as people like Rush Limbaugh (who may not be racist, but certainly is an idiot) exist.
He wasn’t fired, btw. He resigned before it got to that point. He didn’t really need the ESPN show because he has the most successful radio show in the country (which shows why we’re a long way from achieving racial equality).
I’ve known lots of poets and I think that a president
who wrote good poetry would probably get us all
killed.
Listening to local talk radio and hearing a lot of conservative types whining about how the liberals are piling on poor Rush absolutely blew my mind. I mean, I have no apologies for BEING a liberal, but what did this whiney-arsed bunch EXPECT?
Limbaugh has made a career of insults and vicious half-truths aimed at anyone who isn’t a right-wing fellow traveler, followed by proverbially giving ‘the bird’ to anyone who complained. OF COURSE his erstwhile targets are leaping at the opportunity to pile on. What the heck did these crybabies EXPECT? DUH???
Hey, hey hey, now! Stop right there. That sort of thing is by invitation only…and if the subject entreats me with due servitude.
Chuck, what did I tell you about listening to local talk radio? Talk about masochism!
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I was reading George Orwell’s review of Kipling’s collected poems..
Orwell says that Kipling writes very good bad poetry.
‘Down to Gehenna or up to the throne,
He travels the fastest who travels alone.’
A vulgar idea vigorously expressed.
Bad poetry doesn’t include subtle or interesting ideas.
Bascially it’s platitudes. However platitudes are very
useful; they’re true! Some important facts of life
are platitudes. Anybody who ever tries to
accomplish something important will likely think that he/she
would be better off without a spouse and six children,
and there’s Kipling’s verse readymade to express
the idea.
Some of the best loved poems are good bad
poems. (I wish I could remember the whole
of ‘Jenny Kissed Me.’) Good good poems are less popular
because they’re subtle and more difficult..
Bush’s poem is a bad bad poem, which is
a relief.
I figure that any politcal idea that can be
expressed in a good good poem is probably
dangerous and ought to be suppressed.
Separation of Church and State is much
less important than the separation of
good poets from political power.
Got an axe to grind, have we? Limbaugh “exists” because of freedom. It’s the same freedom that allows any of us to exist. Equality cannot be quantified. What is equality to one is suppression to another. All men are created equal, freedom allows us to excel above the fray. The choice to do so is our own. Take away the freedom of an entertainer like Limbaugh (even he admits he’s only an entertainer), and it won’t be long before some of your own freedoms will disappear. So, it’s best to allow the Limbaughs and Frankens and all the rest have the right to exercise their freedoms just like any of us would like to do.
I saw the dude on the evening news, addressing a group of journalist in Philadelphia, saying something like…“there’s no freedom of speech in this country.” Poor victim! Wake up Rush…I have the freedom to say to my friend…"you know, I just realized you are just a &())&^ %$$& 0*^&&-++ *((&_^%$@. That’s the difference between wit and wisdom, between a noisy motor-mouth and prudent silence…the difference between wit and wisdom is that only wisdom knows the difference.
And I could lose my friend by opening my big mouth when I shouldn’t. Sure, there are some truths that will never get discussed with the people I’d like to keep…and they’re mostly all opinions. Rush hasn’t discovered the deeper secret to life…knowing when to do what and when not to. He doesn’t have the wisdom.
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Got an axe to grind, have we? Limbaugh “exists” because of freedom. It’s the same freedom that allows any of us to exist. Equality cannot be quantified. What is equality to one is suppression to another. All men are created equal, freedom allows us to excel above the fray. The choice to do so is our own. Take away the freedom of an entertainer like Limbaugh (even he admits he’s only an entertainer), and it won’t be long before some of your own freedoms will disappear. So, it’s best to allow the Limbaughs and Frankens and all the rest have the right to exercise their freedoms just like any of us would like to do.
You know what’s scarey? Even if he believes everything he has to say is entertainment (and I’m not quite sure of that), his millions of followers don’t.
So what are you saying, Cranberry? All us Limbaugh listeners are just too stupid to make up our own minds?
Not all of you. 
