Pez

It seems like it was just the other day, maybe because it was, that I dropped over to the neighbors to chat and brought a few pez dispensers that I had along in hopes of gaining some wisdom over a question in my mind. This was, of course, the oft-discussed issue over Pluto and Goofy (both of which pez dispensers I had) and why they are both seemingly dogs except one has a driver’s license and a fairly good command of english and the other doesn’t wear pants which is the way it should be with dogs. They were no help in my quest for enlightenment on this but asked if I was a collector of Pez. I said I had 5 in all. They said ‘You’re a collector.’ This must have triggered something in my brain because every time i went into walmart, which had a really nice large display of pez, I would buy one. They were only 94 cents so I thought it was a pretty sweet deal for a little toy in a world full of $29.99 toys. I got the little robot on star wars r2d2, a very cool looking pez by the way, and then a couple more star wars characters and suddenly I was hooked. At this point, a couple of months later, I’m hovering around 100 and I’ll now snatch up pez that i don’t have that i would have sneered at before. I was in walgreens the other day and i saw a pez from the hello kitty series that i’d seen before and chucked to the back of the shelf. It’s the one where the character has a little bunny sitting on her shoulder. Do you think I passed it up this time? I did not. Chicken little, Syd from Ice Age, Yosemite Sam are all now part of my collection and are paticularly cool ones by any account. There are some that are not available in the US that can be bought on ebay for a couple of bucks or more such as the very cool snake from The Jungle Book, the Pink Panther set, and the Incredibles unmasked (masked ones the only ones available here) …So either you’re now convinced, if you weren’t before, that i’m a couple of crayons short of a box, or as i suspect, there are other pez heads on this forum as well.

I would like to get those Incredibles unmasked so if anyone from Australia or Europe where they were released can get these let me know. I saw a set of these go on ebay for 25. the other day but i think my top would be 15. Still, in the world of pez collecting that’s not much. I think it’s bullwinkle the moose (from around 1972?) that commands the highest price…I forget what it was but am pretty sure it was over 1000.

The candy though is not great.

I was going to say: for goodness sake, don’t eat the stuff.

I LUVS PEZ!!!1

Seriously, best ever. I have every Star Wars Pez dispenser, and I love the candy (the strawberry is best, lemon is good, too).

I ate Pez when I was little and I think they made me grow up big and strong!

Trivia: Pez is the reason eBay came into being. Meg Whitman wanted some place to trade Pez dispensers and launched the site. For a time it was a mom-and-pop operation, now it rivals small nations in economic impact.

This is really one of the greatest paradoxes of human history.

No, it’s not! You guys are silly.

Pluto is a dog. Goofy is not. He’s… Goofy.

Duh!

I want the Pez dispenser of Joseph! :laughing:

was just looking at the Goofy and Pluto pez…same face, same long ears…which begs the question; have Goofy and Pluto ever been seen in the same room together?

…I read that pez hardly ever depictes a real person. the only exceptions were Paul Revere, Betsy Ross and Daniel Boone. I think these were made in 1976 for the bi-centennial. They have made an Indian brave and chief but no one specifically.

oh, I’m forgetting batman. He’s a real guy right?

Bless you sweet lady, bless you. :smiley:

I realized I couldn’t even remember who was Goofy and who was Pluto—what a terrible thing! So I had to go find out and it is pretty interesting. Er…, this is a little off the Pez topic. Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goofy

“Goofy is a fictional character from the Walt Disney’s Mickey Mouse universe. He is an anthropomorphic dog and is one of Mickey Mouse’s best friends…”

“Later, starting with How to Play Baseball (1942), Goofy starred in a series of cartoons where every character in the cartoon was a different version of Goofy. This took Goofy out of the role of just being a clumsy cartoon dog, and into a more complex role of symbolizing the struggles of the common man. The epitome of this staid everyman role for Goofy was in the cartoon No Smoking (November 23, 1951) where Goofy, in a world of Goofies, struggles desperately with nicotine addiction. The cartoon, a divergence into an edgier subject (something Disney has always tried to avoid), is now rarely if ever seen due to popular culture’s aversion to cigarettes.”

Art Babbitt’s (creator of Goofy) analysis of Goofy:
“It is difficult to classify the characteristics of the Goof into columns of the physical and mental because they interweave, reflect and enhance one another. Therefore, it will probably be best to mention everything all at once. Think of the Goof as a composite of an everlasting optimist, a gullible Good Samaritan, a halfwit and a shiftless, good-natured hick. He is loose-jointed and gangly, but not rubbery.

He can move fast if he has to, but would rather avoid any overexertion, so he takes what seems to be the easiest way. He is a philosopher of the barber shop variety. No matter what happens, he accepts it finally as being for the best or at least amusing. He is willing to help anyone and offers his assistance even when it is not needed and just creates confusion. He very seldom, if ever, reaches an objective or completes what he has started. His brain being rather vapory, it is difficult for him to concentrate on any one subject. Any little distraction can throw him off his train of thought and it is extremely difficult for the Goof to keep to his purpose. Yet the Goof is not the type of halfwit that is to be pitied. He doesn’t dribble, drool or shriek.

He has music in his heart, even though it is the same tune forever and I see him humming to himself while working or thinking. He talks to himself because it is easier for him to know what he is thinking if he hears it first.

His posture is nil. His back arches the wrong way and his little stomach protrudes. His head, stomach and knees lead his body. His neck is quite long and scrawny. His knees sag and his feet are large and flat. He walks on his heels and his toes turn up. His shoulders are narrow and slope rapidly, giving the upper part of his body a thinness and making his arms seem long and heavy, though actually not drawn that way. His hands are very sensitive and expressive and though his gestures are broad, they should reflect the gentleman.

Never think of the Goof as a sausage with rubber hose attachments. Though he is very flexible and floppy, his body still has a solidity and weight. The looseness of his arms and legs should be achieved through a succession of breaks in the joints rather than what seems like the waving of so much rope. He is not muscular, yet has the strength and stamina of a very wiry person.

His clothes are misfits: his trousers are baggy at the knees and the pants legs strive vainly to touch his shoe tops but never do. His pants droop at the seat and stretch tightly across some distance below the crotch. His sweater fits him snugly except for the neck and his vest is much too small. His hat is of a soft material and animates a little bit.

The Goof’s head can be thought of in terms of a caricature of a person with a pointed dome; large, dreamy eyes, buck teeth and a weak chin, a large mouth, a thick lower lip, a fat tongue and a bulbous nose that grows larger on its way out and turns up. His eyes should remain partly closed to help give him a stupid sleepy appearance, as though he were constantly straining to remain awake. But, of course, they can open wide for expressions or accents. He blinks quite a bit.

He is very bashful. Yet when something stupid has befallen him, he mugs the camera like an amateur actor with relatives in the audience, trying to cover up his embarrassment by making faces and signaling to them. He is in close contact with sprites, goblins, fairies and other such fantasia. Each object or piece of mechanism, which to us is lifeless, has a soul and personality in the mind of the Goof.

The improbable becomes real where the Goof is concerned. He has marvelous muscular control of his fanny. He can do numerous little flourishes with it and his fanny should be used whenever there is an opportunity to emphasize a funny position.

Well, this little analysis has covered the Goof from top to toes, and having come to his end, I end.”





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_(dog)
"Pluto (also known as Pluto the Pup) is a fictional character made famous in a series of Disney short cartoons. Pluto has most frequently appeared as Mickey Mouse’s pet dog, although he has also been Donald Duck’s pet, and occasionally as the pet of Goofy (who, notably, is himself a dog). He also had an independent starring role in a number of Disney shorts in the 1940s and 1950s. Pluto is unusual for a Disney character in that he is not anthropomorphized beyond showing an unusually broad range of facial expressions; he is actually represented with the characteristics of his species."

“Pluto first appeared in the 1930 Mickey Mouse cartoon The Chain Gang as a bloodhound on the trail of escaped prisoner Mickey Mouse. The bloodhound character was adapted into Minnie Mouse’s dog Rover. He later changed his name to Pluto and his owner to Mickey Mouse, making him Mickey’s best pal.”

“Pluto is considered one of the first Disney characters to break out of the “rubber hose and circle” formula style the studio had relied on; the dog’s design gave him the appearance of actually being round instead of flat. In addition, Pluto is one of the first cartoon characters that is actually shown to have thought processes through the use of character animation. The dog’s thought processes are showcased in a landmark scene from 1934’s Playful Pluto, in which Pluto becomes stuck to a piece of fly paper, and attempts to figure out ot a way to get himself unstuck.”

Nice stuff Cynth…now get back to work on your dissertation! No, seriously, looking at those old comics of Disney reminds me how much i used to like the older disney stuff. It wasn’t overly silly but it was innocent; a neat combination when especially later on so many comics seemed to be both silly and somehow not so innocent.

I had just gotten all 4 of the Incredibles pez…for some reason though they didn’t make a Violet Parr; doesn’t seem right she was left out. One day recently I heard Sarah Vowell, who did the voice of Violet, being interviewed on the radio. She’s incredibly interesting (ha, that’s a pun I really hadn’t intended, but she really is) Apparently she’s been doing some free-lance writing for the NY Times lately and her most recent book Assassination Vacation is about her visiting presidential assassination sites which she describes with her somewhat tongue in cheek humor. She was very real though in her interview and I liked her alot. Just wish they had made a Violet Parr.

sorry to hijack away from Pez…

But why does Mickey wear ONLY pants, and Donald wear ONLY a shirt???

and why does Donald get horribly embarrassed when he loses his shirt…but doesn’t give a darn about the lack of pants (and/or trousers)?

:laughing:

:laughing: I already did my research ladies!

But actually as Miwokhill said, I really started remembering how much I loved Mickey Mouse. I had a Mickey Mouse hat and a Mickey Mouse watch—he really was my favorite, boring little child that I was. And the music in the cartoons----wasn’t it sort of old, neat jazz? Everytime I hear old jazz I think of Mickey Mouse cartoons. I actually want to watch some of the real old ones—yes, they even made them before I was born! :laughing:

Here is Miwokhill’s original request, since I got us going off Pez:

Thanks Cynth…If I get desperate enough I’ll start doing things like PMing wombat seeing if he can roust around the outback for the not so ubiquitous unmasked incredible pezs. As of now I check ebay which has one or two of these sets on sale at any given time. The last time they went up to 22.50 plus 6.00 shipping which was a bit much so if I can snag them for maybe 12.00…that’s my plan.

As was mentioned ebay was begun over the owner’s pez hobby. Actually it was her husband who was the computer guy and set the site up for her although she is the one who was and still is i think the head of ebay now.

It’s interesting about Mickey and Donald and i don’t have any good answer for it. I’ve done all the permutations of duck/pants/mouse/shirt and you got me. One thing though is Donald has the 3 nephews Huey, Dewey, and Louie (also pez, only released in europe, about 20 bucks for the 3) So that must mean he has either a brother or a sister that’s the mom or dad of these kids. Where are they? What’s their story? Donald is married to Daisy or are they? Maybe Daisy is his sister? …Mickey and Minnie seem pretty tight so are they married? Why are there not any siblings from these two, sort of the 3 little mice versions of Huey, Dewey, and Louie? …all of a sudden this whole Disney world doesn’t seem quite so innocent as I’d thought.

I can see I’m going to have to look into this. At a certain point my curiosity just can’t stand it anymore. I guess I never thought about who Huey, Dewey and Louie belonged to. I though of Daisy and Donald being married, but I can’t say I’m sure. I don’t even really know about Mickey and Minnie. You know, I think they were just boyfriend and girlfriend. Well, I have to leave now, but I’ll get to the bottom of this. I don’t know about the clothes thing though. :laughing:

You know, I don’t know who the Incredibles are. :laughing: I’ve never heard of them, masked or unmasked. I’ll look them up too and get educated here.