In reading recent posts about one’s skill level, etc. I would like to start a petition to include the “Mistake” as an official ornament to Irish Traditional Music.
Sure Rolls, Cuts, Crans and Slides all hae their place, but I think that the “Mistake” or “Flub” is by far the easiest ornament to learn.
Even the ‘rank beginners’ can pick it up pretty quick. Heck, I was doing them like there was no tomorrow my very first day of whistling! I still have a certain knack for them even to this day!
Call it lick? I think not!
Just a thought…perhaps this can go down in the annals of C&F history as a turning point for whistlers everywhere!
Just trying to do my part to make the whistle world a happier place!
Bri~
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Checked and fixed Mack! wink and an improvisation denotes a deviation from the tune that’s ongoing. I make mistakes, but if you listen closely, you can almost make out the base tune.
I think the “Flub” is still a good choice! LOL!!
I know I was asked not to use the “M” word to describe it, but is the “F” word much better?!
It seems to me that a good musician is one who know how to recover from mistakes so smoothly that most people won’t even know you have made one. I think I am kind of getting to this point on my mandolin -
On the whistle, it is more a matter my occasional listener saying “hey, I think I rcognized that part…” can you play it again?
I’ve been told by one of the best to just fake my way through a flub and pretend it was deliberate, never let 'em know you made a boo-boo, no matter how glaring, just keep on playing and act like nothing happened, so maybe there’s no such thing as a profound is truly gonna make a big difference in the BIG scheme of things, after all. I mean after all, one time I passed gas during a solemn moment during a pow-wow and…
Let’s just call it a “hyper-improvisational embellishment.” An HIE.
I am, perhaps, one of the most hyper-improvisational musicians currently playing - at least on the elite “in the bathroom with the door closed” circuit.
On 2001-08-22 15:53, Blaine McArthur wrote:
It seems to me that a good musician is one who know how to recover from mistakes so smoothly that most people won’t even know you have made one
This brings to mind one of my all time favorite musicians, Phil Cunningham. He has well mastered the art of screwing up a tune on purpose to make folks laugh, but it also serves as an excellent cover for when it isn’t intentional When it isn’t intentional his recovery is always quick and relatively smooth. Take, for example, the whistle intro of “Scarce of Tatties/Lyndhurst” on the “Live Wizardry” recording by Silly Wizard. There is a bit of a musical stumble that most folk don’t even realize is there (and it ain’t on purpose).
On 2001-08-23 11:31, ndjr wrote:
Be careful folks; we run the risk of jumping traditions here. Remember the old rule: “Once is a mistake; twice is Jazz?”
So when I play the whistle I’m playing Traditional Irish Jazz.
Rolls, Cuts, Crans and Slides probably all started as mistakes or flubs. Some flubs sounded better than others, so they were repeated and given official names.
Since a Planxy is a TUNE written as a tribute to someone, ie, “Planxy Dale Wisely”, by someone who knows how to play the thing, it seems only sensible that we novices name the inadvertent roll a “wisely” as in “How wisely you play!” as our own little tribute.
“All you of Earth are idiots!” ~Eros, Plan 9 from Outer Space
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On 2001-08-23 15:19, Anna Martinez wrote:
So when I end up playing “Amazing Grace” in 3/4 time to keep up with the retarded banjo player, I’m playing Tradtional Traditional Fusion?
Oh no…I play it in 3/4 on my bagpipes…I guess that means I’m…(sigh)…oh well
Cheers,
David (the cognitively challenged piper) de la Barre
On 2001-08-23 15:16, StewySmoot wrote:
it seems only sensible that we novices name the inadvertent roll a “wisely”
OH MAN! I LOVE IT!
Dale, you’ve had a tune written for you, and now a whole new generation of new whistlers will be up and playing ‘wisely’s’ from their six holed fipple flutes right from day one!
WHAT AN HONOR!!! Just think of it man! A chorus of a thousand whistlers all ‘wisely-ing’ at the same time! The sound would be amaz…er…well, it would be something to hear that’s for sure!
Heck, Dale’s gonna need his own star on the Hollywood walk of fame before we know it!
